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Mary Lou and Leo kick off their think-ins this morning with housing high on agenda

This week ends how it started in the political world: with a lot of politicians thinking.

FINE GAEL, THE Greens and Sinn Féin are all due to kick off their parliamentary party think-ins this morning, with Mary Lou McDonald back in action after a summer spent recovering from an operation.

McDonald and Varadkar will both fight for the limelight with press events scheduled to clash later this morning. 

In the political sphere, this week began with Fianna Fáil’s annual think-in on Monday in the Horse and Jockey Hotel in Tipperary. 

TDs gathered to discuss the future direction of the party, with housing, education and the future of public service media core issues addressed during the get-together. 

The think-in was punctuated however with the presence of a farmers’ protest, with TDs and the Tánaiste Micheál Martin repeatedly approached by individuals who camped out at the hotel for the night. 

Martin met with IFA representatives on the first morning of the event, who set out their stall in relation to the upcoming change in Ireland’s nitrate derogation limit. 

Despite the Tánaiste dubbing the meeting a “constructive” one, dairy farmers have said they will protest again today outside the Fine Gael think-in in Tipperary. 

Fine Gael TDs and ministers will gather today at the Strand Hotel in Limerick and will be joined on Saturday morning by the party’s Councillors from across the country. 

At the same time, Sinn Féin TDs will meet in Dublin for the party’s annual think-in, although their affair is a more modest one day event. 

Yesterday, Mary Lou McDonald did her first interview in months. 

Speaking on Virgin Media’s Ireland AM programme, McDonald said she underwent a hysterectomy in June following the discovery of tumours and spent the rest of the summer recovering. 

In a video published to McDonald’s Instagram account on Wednesday, the Sinn Féin president said she is “fully recovered” and that “Sinn Féin is ready to lead”.

Elsewhere today, Green party TDs and Ministers will also meet for their annual think-in at the Majestic Hotel in Tramore, Waterford.

Yesterday, the Labour Party and the Social Democrats also both held their annual parliamentary party think-ins, with People Before Profit-Solidarity scheduled to hold theirs on Monday in Buswells Hotel in Dublin. 

Speaking yesterday, Labour leader Ivana Bacik told reporters in Maynooth that she and other party members have received threats and intimidation from the far-right.

She said there are “worrying signs of far-right organising” in Ireland, and that her party is proud to “face down voices of hate and bigotry”.

Meanwhile, Social Democrat’s leader Holly Cairns told reporters that the SocDems are against a proposed cut in the Universal Social Charge.

Cairns likened a USC cut to buying votes and said the Social Democrats’ approach would be to build up public services so that people see the benefit of the tax they pay.

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    Mute John Gallagher
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    Sep 6th 2016, 4:51 PM

    In all fairness it’s hardly up to the guards to remove syringes, it’s the council who clean up the area!!! It’s like the authorities are being blamed and not a word about the people who leave these syringes behind them!?!?

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    Mute Phil Blanc
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    Sep 6th 2016, 5:00 PM

    Well it would be up to the council to remove the syringes, I presume, but the Gardaí to deal with the illegal drug use.

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    Sep 6th 2016, 5:28 PM

    The gardai do prosecute them daily but the courts give fines or suspended sentences and the bleeding heart do gooders try to absolute personal responsibility from the junkies.

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    Sep 6th 2016, 6:22 PM

    they dont even give them fines, they give them BMWs disguised as fines!

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    Sep 6th 2016, 6:49 PM

    @ john
    And where do you think the syringes come from? The authorities using the free needle program. Stop supplying the needles for free, an exchange program wud stamp that out. Charge for fresh needles or free if they return the old one. No more needles lying around.

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    Mute Phil Blanc
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    Sep 6th 2016, 7:44 PM

    If you care charging for needles they’ll reuse then which is a huge part of the problem with IV drug use.

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    Sep 6th 2016, 4:54 PM

    Syringes or not , the amount of uncollected refuse and illegal dumping in this country is a disgrace.

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    Mute Eamonn
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    Sep 6th 2016, 4:46 PM

    Junkies have a disregard for anyone else but themselves. They commit crimes to fund their habits and endanger the lives of others knowing there are no consequences because our Guards are stretched to the limit. All this talk about injection centres and drug rehab programmes is misplaced. Remove all social benefits until clean. That will stop it.

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    Sep 6th 2016, 5:01 PM

    How will that stop it exactly. I think it’s fair to say it’s been established at this point that addicts will and do resort to crime to fund their habit. In what way will removing all social benefits compel users to get clean? Surely drug-related crime rates will increase if social benefits are removed..

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    Mute Phil Blanc
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    Sep 6th 2016, 5:03 PM

    Silly Daffy. Don’t help people who need help because… er… reasons.

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    Sep 6th 2016, 7:34 PM

    Round them up and stick them in a tiled room with a bucket for 9 weeks and let them go thru the dts , less of the mammying and bleeding heart bs and bit more tough love is required

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    Mute O-'Seán
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    Sep 6th 2016, 11:14 PM

    number of thumbs up demonstrates the ignorance. How will this stop the scourge? ‘Where there’s a will’ …
    yes it makes good people monsters but you are wrong the centers are working in Canada, Switzerland and more. The Portuguese lapped up the benefits in their society although they had the common sense to stop criminalising users and, more importantly, addicts.
    https://news.vice.com/article/ungass-portugal-what-happened-after-decriminalization-drugs-weed-to-heroin

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    Mute Alan Flood
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    Sep 6th 2016, 4:24 PM

    They had the answer when the bad gear was on the streets . Cops worked overtime to get rid of it .

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    Mute Dean Sheehan
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    Sep 6th 2016, 4:50 PM

    Wat r u on bout Alan? The gards have no answer to gear on the street.Dublin is covered in it,has been for years.the cards may aswel have there fingers up there holes.ther use less

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    Sep 6th 2016, 4:56 PM

    I think he’s pointing out that the gards could have let the lethal drugs that hit irish streets a while back run their course and culled the junkie population instead of working so hard to get that particular batch off the streets.

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    Sep 6th 2016, 5:30 PM

    yeh he’s gone a bit ‘CIA / crack cocaine’ on us there

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    Mute Alan Flood
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    Sep 6th 2016, 6:26 PM

    Spot on

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    Sep 6th 2016, 4:33 PM

    But we can’t have safe injection centers to help minimise this sort of thing because ill-informed right-wing idiots and the FG Holy Joe Country and Western brigade think it’s bad and wrong and wil encourage drug use and hate it because it was proposed by uber-liberal girlyman Aodhán Ó Ríordáin when he was a TD.

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    Sep 6th 2016, 4:52 PM

    Because like all trolls, it’s the highlight of their day.

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    Sep 6th 2016, 4:53 PM

    There was a very feel-good article the other day about how a drug that save the lives of multiple overdosers should be distributed for free and how empowering it all is, blah blah. And how good it feels to save the life of a junkie who over shot himself. All the comments that were considered to be of the buzz killing type were taken down. Didn’t fit with junkie as harmless victim narrative . Then when you see the reality of what drug addicts leave behind in their wake, the reality of their absolute self indulgence and the pain and damage they inflict it just makes me angry that resources go into these people that could be better spent on more deserving people with better outcome possibilities.

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    Sep 6th 2016, 4:56 PM

    “Safe injection centres are the answer alright. However, it wouldnt be heroin I would advocate injecting. ”

    - Yeah, murdering problematic people is a great idea.

    “O’ Riordan and the rest of the liberals need a reality check. Junkies choose their lifestyle and bring their misery upon the rest of society”

    - And safe injecting centers woudl reduce the misery they bring to the rest of society, and themselves, and reduce the financial cost to society too.

    “Do you think injection centres are somehow going to cause the junkies to be bestowed with civic responsibility and not leave needles on the streets ever again?”

    - Why are you asking me that when I quite clearly stated in the comment you’re responding to that “safe injection centers to help minimise this sort of thing”. HELP MINIMISE. How hard a concept is that to understand?

    “It’s the uber-liberals that infest our judiciary that turf these junkies onto the streets time and time again wile looking after their friends suckling from the free-legal-aid teat.”

    - What the f__k does that have to do with providing safe injecting centers to take them OFF the street?

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    Sep 6th 2016, 4:59 PM

    “Then when you see the reality of what drug addicts leave behind in their wake, the reality of their absolute self indulgence and the pain and damage they inflict it just makes me angry that resources go into these people that could be better spent on more deserving people with better outcome possibilities.”

    And providing safe injecting centres would remove some of what they leave behind, drug paraphernalia. Would reduce the healthcare cost of dealing with unsafe injecting, sharing needles etc. Would reduce the risk of overdosing, which will, regardless of what some might like, take up resources like emergency services etc.

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    Sep 6th 2016, 5:34 PM

    If you have nothing useful to add to the discussion, Marg, the just keep quiet.

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    Sep 6th 2016, 5:35 PM

    damn those uber-liberals, using ride-sharing apps in a free and easy manner.

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    Sep 6th 2016, 5:40 PM

    If you have nothing useful to add to the discussion, Marg, then just keep quiet.

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    Sep 6th 2016, 7:08 PM

    Ah the bleeding hearts are out in force. How about this solution? Three strikes approach…you are given help three times and if you are still a junkie after that, then no more help. No dole, no free houses, not a penny more from the tax payer. As I said its a lifestyle choice, they are given endless help and dont take it

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    Sep 6th 2016, 7:13 PM

    @cleverjake Take a wander down to Our Ladys in Crumlin or Temple Street and you will see people who need help. Children all over the country need life saving operations and medicine and your lot want to spend the health budget on people who made bad choices. Those kids didnt make and bad choices and they suffer because millions are spent on wasters. Shame on you and your liberal friends

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    Sep 6th 2016, 7:42 PM

    How about we build safe injecting centers and use the money saved treating people for sharing needles and help avoid situations like this and resources spent on treating children like this little girl when it could be avoidable and direct the money into Crumlin or Temple Street hospitals rather than harp on about political ideology and achieve nothing but more waste?

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    Sep 6th 2016, 7:58 PM

    How about we dont spend another cent on wasters and divert the money saved to the real hard cases? How about we stop indulging the waster generation who think they are entitled to not work and get paid. The govt pay heroin addicts €188 a week and they spend it on gear. The truth is that the govt are directly funding Kinihan and Freddy and the rest of the dealers. Taxpayers money is directly funding the murder on our streets. Wake up and smell the coffee. This is the reality of not only tolerating but funding drug dealers by giving free money to wasters

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    Sep 6th 2016, 8:27 PM

    “Some of the most vulnerable people in society…” No. Some of the most vulnerable are among those junkies prey on. Old people, special needs people, kids. Through no fault of their own, they are the people who get mugged, robbed, beaten, dragged down lanes, and exposed to dangerous needles junkies left behind, because they are vulnerable. We hear the stories over and over. They also missed out on services that the government can’t afford because they are too busy looking out for people who made a conscious decision to ruin their own lives with drugs.

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    Sep 6th 2016, 9:05 PM

    “How about we dont spend another cent on wasters and divert the money saved to the real hard cases?”

    Because if we don’t things like this happen.

    “How about we stop indulging the waster generation who think they are entitled to not work and get paid. ”

    Are you even addressing the issue here ot just ranting?

    “The govt pay heroin addicts €188 a week and they spend it on gear. The truth is that the govt are directly funding Kinihan and Freddy and the rest of the dealers.”

    What are you on about?

    “Taxpayers money is directly funding the murder on our streets. Wake up and smell the coffee. This is the reality of not only tolerating but funding drug dealers by giving free money to wasters”

    What has this got to do with the issue being discussed?

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    Sep 6th 2016, 10:54 PM

    There isnt enough money to go around in the health service. Straight question…you have €1 million to spend on either injection centres or life saving operations, which do you choose? No bluff, no answering my question with a question, which one do you choose?

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    Sep 6th 2016, 11:18 PM

    at least recognise that there isnt the money because of a deliberate EU/Europe-wide constructed financial crisis ..the results of which are to privatise our resources and drive ordinary people’s living standards into the abyss. However now that we know ROI is ready for the centers – why dont we stop arguing and introduce a few ?

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    Sep 6th 2016, 11:23 PM

    which do you choose which do you choose which do you choose which do you choose?

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    Sep 7th 2016, 7:31 AM

    Jake surely even people from a poor socio- economical background know the word NO !!!!!!! . Nobody forced these people to take their first drug NOBODY . And now innocent children are waiting for blood results because of their total disregard for people by just dropping their needles ” wherever” . Would you be as understanding if it was your child ????

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    Sep 7th 2016, 7:36 AM

    So Phil because marg does not agree with you, she has nothing useful to say ????. She is as entitled to her opinion on this as much as you are so relax and act like an adult

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    Sep 7th 2016, 1:31 PM

    You have once again dodged the question being asked. €1 million to spend on heroin addicts or children who need life saving operations…who would you rather spend it on? This is the reality

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    Sep 6th 2016, 8:07 PM

    I was there yesterday and two as it seemed men a bit out of it were asking each other in a most delightful manner, Would you rob that shop to each other, what a delight and both dressed in immaculate clothing, that made me wonder if these druggies stole the clothes they were wearing as well?
    What a delight for tourists…
    Too sarcastic I think?

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    Sep 6th 2016, 11:21 PM

    reads a bit like a poem

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    Sep 6th 2016, 8:38 PM

    3….2……1…. Que the Druggies are victims and the PC bollocks excuses .

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    Sep 6th 2016, 11:22 PM

    the druggies are victims. Yours, PC Bollocks.

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    Sep 7th 2016, 11:04 AM

    Sure they are. I wonder how many victims the average drug user has left in their wake . Ever had a family member attacked with a needle?? Ever had a house ransacked by a user. ever had a business broken into by a user?.
    I wouldn’t even call them human, never mind victims.

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    Sep 6th 2016, 4:42 PM

    The only way to stop this is having these centres .you hear these stories with kids too often .

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    Sep 6th 2016, 4:53 PM

    No, we should bury our heads in the sand and hope it goes away all on its own.

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    Sep 6th 2016, 5:02 PM

    And rant about how providing such a service is being nice to junkies while ignoring pretty much all the other benefits.

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    Sep 6th 2016, 5:30 PM

    Let me make it clear though i don’t have any sympathy for junkies they disgust me but if this lessons the chance of my children coming in contact with their filthy needles I’d support it !

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    Sep 6th 2016, 5:48 PM

    Injection centres are a step in the right direction of course but, just like prisons, the NIMBYs will be all over any kind of planning permission or works installation to ensure that these facilities are not installed within a jumbo jet’s roar of their area. Yet they will complain until the cows come home. Meanwhile the councils will remain in a constant state of paralysis with respect to a decision on this while Joe Public remains in harms way.

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    Sep 6th 2016, 7:30 PM

    Exactly my thinking Lauren. Couldn’t care less about addicts. It’s everybody else I’m worried about.

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    Sep 6th 2016, 8:10 PM

    Kids that are born junkies and have to go through detox as soon as they are born are then just handed back to their junkie mothers .. I’ll never understand that …

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    Sep 6th 2016, 8:38 PM

    @Sean

    Wouldn’t you have the same attitude if it was actually ‘in your backyard’ and YOUR property would lose 50 grand in value almost overnight?

    I’m all for injection centres if it helps to reduce those incidents but not in predominantly residential areas.

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    Sep 6th 2016, 11:24 PM

    i dont have a backyard, or a property worth e50k- so im fine with it

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    Sep 6th 2016, 4:28 PM

    We as a society needs to open up civic responsibility centres for junkies.
    Take the money from the health budget.

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    Sep 6th 2016, 5:09 PM

    Stay classy Ballymuh

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    Sep 6th 2016, 6:02 PM

    People mention injection centres great idea let’s get these useless carcasses out of the city and build an injection centre in foxrock.

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    Sep 6th 2016, 11:06 PM

    Introduce the injection centers. No excuses we are still waiting in this country.

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