14 innocent people.

Sorry I forgot about the man who later died as a result of the shooting.

14 innocent people murdered by cowardly murderers.

Handing over soldiers to who? The investigation is being conducted by a UK police force!

I wonder if the current clowns in the Dail will follow suit and start a murder enquirey into the the Dublin & Monaghan bombings which was the worst attrocity that took place during the troubles. I would reccoment the book “The Committee: Political Assassination in Northern Ireland” by Sean Mcphilemy. Its a great book that deals with collusion between Lizies forces the RUC and loyalist paramilitaries.

I completely agree and I cant understand the delay in setting up the process. And I also have to say Cal that I very much admire how magnanimous you are having grown up in the north during the troubles, especially given the murder of your friend and your ability to look beyond that. I dont think I could be that generous or forgiving.

Its 2012!!!

So someone who commits a crime should only have a specific window of time where they can be held accountable for their actions Brenner, is that your logic? The time-frame is solely the fault of the British authorities for not holding their troops accountable for their actions in the first place. Don’t be upset because families still seek justice.

Tell me Brenner should those who were abused by priests 40 years ago not seek justice for their suffering? Or do you just object to justice for the Catholics in the six counties?

I wonder why Brenner didn’t answer your post Ann :D Well debated…. Respect :)

Who do you charge? Goverment ministers from 40 years ago have probably passed away by now.

Who do you charge – are you serious? You start with those that gave the order to open fire on a peaceful human rights protest attended by women and children!

And were they members of the government? Can you read?

I can do many things including reading. I am also, unlike you, capable of compassion and empathy. To answer your question – those in charge of the First Battalion of the Parachute Regiment who ordered soldiers, to open fire and shoot to kill. They are the people who should be brought before the courts and charged with mass murder.

I agree but this particular sub thread was about charging the government. Did you not read that bit?

I do apologise, I’m just so vexed at the red thumbs. I cant believe that some people have a problem with this news.

Their age has nothing to do with, they didnt give a flying fluk when they opened fire on innocent women and very young children. These people deserve justice so again I ask, if a nazi who had been on the run for 50 years and was eventually captured, should he be let off just because he’s 70 or 80?

I totally agree with you Ann they should be punished for it, all I was thinking about was the British reaction, not that it matters. When they said what happened during the so called famine was wrong people I was working with from England said it was stupid and were very angry.

I was living in Falmouth England when the Guilford 4 were released and everyone in my local were disgusted when they were released, some people were saying maybe they didn’t plant that bomb but they definitely did something so it will be interesting to see the British reaction if anyone is jailed.

Who gives a fluck if the british public will be upset to see these ex soldiers go to prison. They are murders they deserve to rot in prison, just like any other killer.

The British need a reality check and need to realise they are not the good guys of the west that they always make themselves out to be. They need to face up to the facts that they have been involved in atrocities around the world.

That brings to mind the English woman who was interviewed while marching during the Birmingham Six “trial” who stated that the six shouldnt have been given a trial and they should have been sent straight to the gallows.

Don’t think so – one guy living in Holland I think – a Major.

So… 25 people think that only certain crimes be investigated and those by the IRA should not ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingsmill_massacre

I’m sure the families of those murdered will be delighted with your compassion.

A waste of time you say? I don’t think the families of the dead and wounded would see it that way do you? There is no statute if limitations where murder is concerned

And I am sure the families of dying drug addicts and victims of organised crime will be delighted to hear of the drain on police resources, the dealers and killers in modern NI certainly will be smiling.

Is that the Official English Defence League line or just your own point of view?

EDL is an anti-islam organisation, led by two men who are the children of Irish immigrants. I suggest you at least refer to google before you post such ignorant statements. Duh!

“I suggest you at least refer to google before you post such ignorant statements. Duh!”

What statement? I asked a question, I didn’t make a statement. It is ironic that you associate with the English Defence League while at the same time struggle with the basic syntax and sentence formation within the English Language.

So is justice always a waste of time to you Brenner, or only when it’s northern nationalists who have been the victim of the crime? Law and justice is only about prevention, it’s about making those who commit crimes accountable for their actions. Wise up.

Brian: I think you have confused yourself. You brought in the EDL, they in fact don’t comment on Irish issues, I pointed that out to you. Your retort is to then accuse me of not understanding English? I have published 2 papers on the EDL, I can give you references if you wish. Maybe if you read them you can speak from a position not characterised by obvious stupidity and arrogance (always an entertaining mix by the way).

…and, considering the fact that you don’t know me and therefore could have no information to suggest that I do or do not associate with the EDL, your question was rhetorical and therefore a statement. Silly billy.

Er, perhaps he got the idea from the fact that you have “English Defence League” listed under your activities and interests on your facebook page.

Brenner as I pointed out to you I asked a question, pure and simple and not a statement as you asserted. A simple answer would have sufficed as opposed to calling me ignorant, confused, stupid and arrogant. You did not point out that the EDL don’t comment on Irish issues and as Sean pointed out linking your Facebook page to the EDL and someone called “Mr Muslamic Ray-Guns” would lead me to believe that you might have had some insight to the way the EDL think.

i would be grateful if you could provide references to those papers that you mentioned and I’ll give them a read over when I get a chance.

Murphy.. Your forgot to mention murderers.