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Parents anticipating back-to-school costs of up to €620 a child

National Consumer Agency advises parents to plan and budget carefully for the costs of sending children to school in September.

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PARENTS ARE BEING urged to plan and budget carefully for the range of back-to-school costs which arise at the end of the summer.

According to research carried out by Amárach Research on behalf of the NCA, parents estimate back-to-school costs of €487 per primary school child and €620 for each child in secondary school.

“Based on our research, a family of four, with one primary and one secondary level child, could have to pay up to €1,100, on average, just to send their children back to school this year,” NCA CEO Ann Fitzgerald said.

“Spending this amount of money on back-to-school costs is a significant financial pressure for most parents, especially those who may be already struggling financially. For parents who are worried about their back-to-school costs, working out a budget, planning their spending and looking for ways to cut their costs can make a big difference.”

The organisation is providing an online budgeting tool and some money-saving tips to help parents plan to cover the costs arising from children heading back to school in September.

The first thing the NCA recommends is for parents to check if they are eligible for the Department of Social Protection’s Back to School Allowance which contributes towards the cost of uniforms and footwear, although that allowance has been reduced.

Over half  (59 per cent) of parents surveyed by Amárach Research for the NCA said that they would use their regular income to cover the costs, while slightly over a quarter said they would put money aside. One-fifth said they would be applying for the Back to School Allowance.

Earlier today, Barnardos said that its survey of back-t0-school costs found that parents are going without food or paying bills in order to pay for school-related costs.

Barnardos said that parents responding to their survey were “showing real fear and concern at how they are going to make sure their children have what they need to get an education”.

Barnardos survey: Parents “cut back on food” to pay back-to-school costs >

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  • In some countries such as Thailand the school uniform is the same for all schools throughout the country. This has several advantages;
    1. Prices are very low as many companies make the uniforms.
    2. Uniforms can be passed down from child to child or sold off locally when no longer needed.
    3. Kids and parents don’t have to think about what clothes to wear everyday as they will have a couple of uniforms for school. Many parents and kids prefer to have uniforms than wear regular clothes.

    I manage to get most of my kids school uniform in penneys or Dunnes and only need to buy a school crest for jumper. School books are expensive for 1st year but many of the books are used for 3 years.

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  • Was talking to a lad yesterday who estimates that he’s gonna have to spend around €300 on stuff for his son starting school soon.

    That’s for all books, uniform, tracksuit and random fees the school charges.
    Dunno how people could spend €600 on their kids unless they were buying several uniforms or something.

    Although, in saying that – the cost of books and uniforms does seem to be a bit excessive.
    When a book sells well, the price usually goes down.

    However, for the books actually needed for education for children, the prices remain at, what seems to be, an unnecessary price.

    The uniforms should be made by Penny’s or something as well.
    For as far as I can see, the quality from specialist school providers is no better – the only difference is that it has a specialist crest.

    It’s pretty typical in Ireland for for necessitiesto be overpriced.

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    • It All depends on what class or year the child is going into. My son is starting secondary school and my costs so far have come to €640. My other son is going into senior infants and his costs are €180. Still both prices are way beyond the means of a lot of parents.

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  • The whole school uniform debacle has been a scam for years, also like certain companies that have a cartel on the schoolbooksused ,in some eu countries the junior schoolkids all wear outergarments that covers their everyday clothes and costls little money and all the state schools use these so no need for changing uniform if changing school and also can be passed on ,all this crests and emblem thing is just status seeking and schools trying to portray a certain image instead of concentrating on giving a better level of education to its students

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  • Its disgraceful that one head of a school is allowed to tell hundreds of parents they are forced just to go to a sole trader – who can charge whatever the hell they like!
    As reported often, in some cases between 250 and 300 Euro a child

    There is also some suspicion that SOME of the heads of these schools might be getting a backhander, to get the parents to go to some particular clothing makers!

    The law should be changed in regard to their ability to legally strong-arm parents to just one business and no one else!
    Its a legalised monopoly!

    Some schools or persons involved by the sounds of things, deserve further financial investigation to see who is possibly gaining on the quiet!
    It certainly not the parents of Ireland!

    “Rip-off Ireland” still going it seems!

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    • Anyone with such problems should petition the school board for change.

      There is actually a lot going on with these issues:
      1 – the school wants to appear to be professional and have high standards
      2 – the uniform people rub their hands together, loving the month of August
      3 – the people on the school board are primarily “successful” people who have little understanding of the financial struggle for parents
      4 – the parents themselves don’t want to place anything on the shoulders of their kids – no parent wants to send their kid to school without the full uniform and a note that says “I simply cannot afford it”
      5 – it’s very difficult for parents within a community to speak out and say “I’m struggling – aren’t you?”. It’s also very hard for parents to say openly “Yes, I am”

      It is quite simply economic discrimination.

      The uniform is one area where pressure can be taken off parents straight away. It’s often seen as a school spirit and pride thing – Wouldn’t it be something to be proud off to be connected to a school who’s policy is to recognise the times? Wouldn’t it generate a unique spirit within a school to allow kids to express themselves in their dress?

      I know the argument of putting all kids in the same clothes prevents a show off competition in brand names but forget the clothes; mobile phones has taken this over anyway and you can’t tell all kids to only have firefly’s.

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    • Get the papers involved.

      There’s a recession on. The media love a good “rip off” story.

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    • Leah 01/08/12 #

      The crested items is ridiculous. My primary school switched to generic track suits and then sold the crests for a fiver to be stitched on. Could then be removed and put on next years etc.

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  • god help parents if theres any children heading for college as well 2250euro to send to our great colleges whos presidents have demanded higher fees but havent bothered to even take meaningful pay cuts themselves…….but don’t worry folks the so called experts will still spout out that education is still relatively free in ireland, which is like saying bertie ahern is a saint!

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  • Some secondary schools have brought in ‘Rent a book’ schemes and these reduce costs substantially.

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    • Unfortunately a large percentage of students involved in the rental scheme don’t take care of the books or even lose them and this causes the costs to rise for the whole group. some of this is accidental (yogurts exploding in the bag being the worst and most common example) but in a minority of cases it is deliberate.

      Also some books come back with random pages missing, inappropriate stuff drawn or written on them and answers written into them too.

      It would be great if everybody minded the books and a scheme like this would work a treat but as is the case in life a minority of individuals ruin it for the majority.

      An interesting question for all the parents here, do you go to the bother of putting a cover on your child’s school books? In my day in school,
      Especially national school it was very common, I can’t remember the last time I saw one of my students with a cover on his book.

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  • I have two in school ….. Thankfully we have a book rental but I start saving in sept, when the kids go back to cover next yrs stuff…. Free education my ass

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  • im lucky enough to send my 2 daughters to a school that stopped using the schools crest on their uniform a few years ago. the have to wear the school tracksuit which costs aprox 30 but is good quality. their books cost 90 and 120 euro.
    always shop around for generic uniforms don’t just assume than pennys and dunnes are cheapest (dunnes trousers skirts and jumpers have gone up by e2 since last year)
    they don’t HAVE to wear brand name trainers and ask yourself do they really NEED a new school bag or is last years one still in good nick? i find alot of parents think that everything needs to be brand new going back to school but its not really necessary i always use my eldest daughters clothes for my youngest. alot of charity shops are now stocking uniforms too so its worth having a look.

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  • Ive anticipated over 650 as my daughter’s first year uniform cost over 400 euro.

    School skirt (tartan not generic) 90 e
    School trousers 30 e
    School blouse x 2 40e
    School jumper crested 70e
    School jacket crested 60e
    School socks 30e
    School shoes decks on sale 70e was 99e

    Now I have thought ahead, I’ve got everything bar the shoes 2 sizes to big so she will have them for 3 years, oh yeah in 3 years the uniform changes…. 4th and 5th years wear a different uniform.

    Generic uniforms would be great, the quality of the uniform I got for my daughter is good and I have no doubt it will last 3 year’s ( bar the trousers and socks) generic uniforms can be cheap and can last too.

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  • I would be interested to know how many of the parents on here complaining about the costs of going back to school have bothered getting involved in school activities such as becoming members of the parents councils and the Boards of Management of these schools to argue for change from within.

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  • Damocles 01/08/12 #

    If a majority of parents resent this in a particular school can’t they, via some sort of PTA, do something about it?

    Schools depend on parents, if parents just roll over it’s no wonder the schools get away with it.

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  • How about the schools not bother with the ludicrously overpriced uniforms and just let the children wear their normal clothes which they have to buy anyway? They’re children, not soldiers.

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    • Absolutely – and maybe have the sense to keep books in classrooms, giving homework that doesn’t depend on the textbook. (If at all)

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    • So you think letting the kids wear whatever they want, turning school into a fashion parade is going to be cheaper than a school uniform?

      Not to mention that uniforms have been proven to have a positive effect on the mental attitude of pupils.

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    • No, I think the clothes that kids wear all summer long and on weekends are good enough for school too. You think the “fashion parade” doesn’t exist outside of schools?

      At least then the parents who are on the very edge are not forced to pay for such things which are not necessary and be forced to cut back on basics.

      There would be nothing stopping a school making their uniform a generically available one either, which at least would reduce costs significantly from the non-generic stuff people are forced to buy.

      And come on – jumpers AND blazers? SOCKS? Specific SHOES?

      As for your assertion on pupils’ attitudes:
      “The lack of conclusive evidence
      concerning whether uniforms or restrictive
      dress policies really have a positive
      impact is also cited by opponents. Loren
      Siegel, director of the Public Education
      Department for the American Civil Liberties
      Union, points out that whereas the
      Long Beach School District claims uniforms
      resulted in a reduction in certain
      forms of student misconduct and improved
      student achievement, a causal
      relationship may not exist (http://www.
      aclu.org/congress/uniform.html) . Since
      other changes were instituted about the
      same time the uniform policy was put
      into effect (for example, teacher supervision
      in halls was increased and new
      content standards were adopted), it is
      difficult to determine which variables
      were actually responsible for the subsequent
      drop in misbehavior.”
      from: https://scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/1794/3371/digest148.pdf?sequence=1

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    • No, if there is no uniform the parents are under pressure to have a wardrobe of clothes for their kids do that they keep up with the well of Jones’s. But With a uniform, its a one off buy and all classes of children are equal.

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    • At least then it would be the choice of parents what to clothe their kids in and not have the choice be what basics to go without because of the financial strain.

      I still don’t get how you think that “keeping up with the Joneses” stops outside the school?

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    • Works out better with uniforms . Saves a lot of competition goes on between children. Some parents can afford designer clothing . And even at a young age children know the difference between Prada and penneys .at least when they are all in the same clothes they can concentrate on schoolwork not on who is wearing what .

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  • Crikey, 600 seems like a pittance compared to childcare costs. I can’t wait for my yearly costs to drop from 8,000 a year per child in creche charges, to 600 a year in uniforms and books.

    I’ll be the person buying jumpers and stitching the crest on myself though.

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    • That’s if the school you’re sending your child to will accept that. The school my daughter attends has a weekly inspection of uniforms, and if the girls are caught wearing anything other than the official crested jumper, they;re sent home until they get the correct one. Which, by the way, costs €60.

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    • I’d gladly get a generic uniform from one of the high street shops if the school allowed it. They won’t.

      Despite the fact our school is in a disadvantaged area with a high level of unemployment they still insist on forcing parents to buy the full uniform. If the child doesn’t wear it he or she is sent home just like Trisha says. We have tried for years to get our school to accept generic uniforms to no avail. We believe they are getting a payment from the supplier.

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  • So far this year I have had to spend 250 on a new uniform, the school has decided to change the uniform so no change of second hand either, approx 200 on books and stationary, 150 voluntary contribution, another 200 for transition years extras. 700 euros and we don’t qualify for any back to school allowances. I am really struggling to find it all and I only have one child in school. I know of parents who are going without basics just to cover the costs.

    Schools really have parents over a barrel, there is not even an option in our school to rent books or buy them through the school and pay them off over the school year which would take some pressure off. I don’t know of any school that has done anything to make it easier for parents.

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  • Research???!!!! Pah.

    Who are Tesco, Dunnes and Aldi selling all the €20 uniforms to? Assuming some people buy them, and to get the average cost here, then everyone who’s not must be kitting their kids out in Prada gear.
    Seen the ‘online budgeting tool’? What ya do is ya put all your expenses in little boxes, and the the ‘online budgeting tool’ adds them up for ya! Thanks NCA!!
    How about the ‘money saving tips’? ‘Packed lunches are cheaper than shop bought lunches’. ‘Consider buying second hand schoolbooks’. Jaysus wept.

    Do we have to give the term ‘research’ a legal standing!!??

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  • 650? … My son is going into 1st year community school – not private.
    So far…
    400€ for the uniform including school sports gear. Not including shoes and runners.
    300 € for books I’ve got so far
    350€ for school material and sports equipment money, “voluntary contribution” (that’s not so voluntary), locker, and books sourced and provided by the school.
    350 for school bus
    Shoes and runners I still have to get as I said about.

    … And then I’ve a daughter going into 5 th class. It’s difficult to say the least

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  • Free education in Ireland my arse! It’s an absolute disgrace!

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  • the minister for education was asked when he came to his new role about sorting out the crowd that sell these hugely bloated school books and why was some books only minimally changed but yet still had to be used when the years previous book could be used, of course he said at the time he would talk to the book sellers to see could something be done……………thats like asking the minister in charge of energy to have a word with bord gais and the esb about stopping price hikes when there bosses are earning fat salaries at the end of the day brown envelopes talk to our politicians on things like this there needs to be a boycott by parents of new books in schools until some agreement is reached!

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  • Up to 620? Pardon a pedant but couldn’t be a anywhere from zero up. Likewise with the ” up to… On average”. Lazy language loses all significance.

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    • Kitted out our 4 year old this morning. 3 Trousers, 4 Shirts, 2 School Crest Jumpers, 2 Ties, 5 pairs Socks, 1 School tracksuit, 1 pair shoes, 1 pair runners, school bag, lunch box, over coat. We paid 50euro to school fund for books, school fundraises for balance. Ive no doubt mid way through year we’ll have to buy few replacements as he grows, but that lot this morning cost €340.

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    • Gerard 01/08/12 #

      Why would you need 3 trousers and 4 shirts for a 4 year old? I’m not doubting you at all but it seems excessive for that age group

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  • Barnados are great…why don’t you’s pay for the people that can’t afford uniforms..instead of moaning that the government are not handing out money that they don’t have to pay for it

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