Fertilization of US Democracy seeds perhaps? Or just showing that they’re as savage as people they invaded -just have better gear to shift casualty ratio their way…

We know that, the statement was specifically in connection with the U.S. Military and was meant to signify how strongly the incident will be dealt with. It is not acceptable behaviour for anyone, but in this case it is allegedly members of the U.S. military we are talking about. Is there really a need for pedantry?

Tony I agree with you too … War is terrible ! This is nothing new in war . Soldiers kill ! There is no ‘nice ‘ way to dress it up. This should not have happened,it is what it is.

Roars of condemnation from the anti-war brigade – funny they are so quiet when it comes to Taliban atrocities. Like that tortured child recently, or burying and stoning to death women who commit adultery.

Why are they hated . I don;t hate them. In fact the more I read these posts the more sympathy I feel for these young soldiers . I do not condone them peeing on the dead men BUT we do not know what led up to this incident. They are at WAR….. We have no idea of what that is like . Some body earlier compared it to racism…..How ignorant is that , and I mean ignorant in the real lack of knowledge sense….. These young soldiers were probably fired at , or witnessed their colleagues being killed, Do any of us know what fear is, real fear? I don’t . They were afraid , far from their families, no excuse I hear you all say , but the truth is how do we know?

Totally agree Leslie. This isn’t an isolated incident. It’s reminiscent of Abu Ghraib and other cases where American soldiers, who supposedly pride themselves on professionalism, act disgracefully.

This isn’t something that should be defended. Thousands of soldiers are/were engaged in Afghanistan and Iraq and it’s a small minority of scum like this who FILM the desecration of dead bodies that put the lives of their colleagues and civilians at risk.

The Taliban commit atrocities too. But it doesn’t make this kind of behaviour right.

A few things wrong with that Dom. Firstly, it was Saudi and Pakistani members of Al Qaeda that attacked the US on 9/11. Not Afghani members of the Taliban. They are not the same group.

Secondly, now whilst I have no love for the Taliban (They are Islamic fascists) – Do you honestly think that the world is a safer place after pissing on their corpses? What’s going to infuriate hardlined Islamic insurgents more? An honourable death in combat, or a humiliating death and being pissed on by a bunch of US marines?

They haven’t changed anything or made the world a safer place. All they have done is provided a recruitment drive for the Taliban. Moderate Muslims in Afghanistan will line up to join them now to fight the US, you can be sure of that.

Wise up.

How can you be so ill-informed and telling others to wise up? Where did you get this idea that Taliban attacked US on 9/11? I didn’t say that, nobody else said that on this thread. In fact this idea is so stupid that I have never heard anyone anywhere suggesting this until you wrote it here. What Taliban did do was to provide playground for Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda had in Afghanistan a refuge to operate without hinderance facilitated by the Taliban. They planned and executed 9/11 from there. Al Qaeda do not have this facility any more thanks to invasion of Afghanistan. And to prevent Afghanistan from ever becoming a play area for the likes of Al Qaeda, Taliban have to be hunted down and killed. And pissed all over.

Secondly, it looks like you guys think these soldiers should behave like residents of D4 at a dinner party. Pissing over dead bodies doesn’t fit within your context of humanity and winning hearts and minds. This is an animal act, these guys are scum. Well let me put this in the context for your because I don’t know how much experience you or anyone else here have with having pieces of shit dangling on hair around your arse hole because you haven’t washed properly for weeks and at the same time being shot at by a vicious enemy. I can assure you that humanity and enemy motivation is the last thing on your mind after combat. Pissing on dead enemy is one of the less extreme manifestations of what goes on in a soldier’s mind before and after combat. The only stupid thing they did is to film it.

The marines are not the army BTW

They are not masquerading as soldiers . They are soldiers in a war zone …. It is not right what they have done . They were filmed peeing on corpses of their enemies , it is not right. We wouldn’t do it , absolutely not. I have never been in a war zone !

It is, but we don’t know the circumstances. It is quite likely that the engagement was started by the Taliban insurgents, it may not have been. Unfortunately in a war time situation people die. It is unjustifiable in my opinion, but unfortunately it is the way of war.

Sorry, what I should have said is why isn’t the war itself deplorable?

I agree completely. War, not only this particular war, is deplorable.

correction..al qeeda committed an act of war against USA on 9/11..originating in their bases in.Afghanistan. The US govt rightly demanded that the taliban regime hand over those responsible for planning that atrocity..they refused and were invaded..i think its quite clear who actually started this particular war

speak for yourself, I don’t

I don’t hate America or Americans,these guys are animals but that doesn’t reflect on ALL Americans

I don’t hate Americans or anyone .

I do Eileen,pedophiles would be my favourite group to hate,followed by rapists and murderers……but I don’t think I’m alone on that

No you are not alone in that .
I dislike a lot but hate is a lot emotion that I would never waste on some one that does not deserve it …

Colm Mooney
I agree with you it is wrong and You are right in every word you say. There is nothing right about any of this . Were the Talibahn dead trying to kill these soldiers moments earlier? Had they killed and injured colleagues of these soldiers? I don’t know , but I know war is terrible and worse than this has happened in all wars on all sides .

America’s government, miltary and corporations are the worlds biggest problem and only a fool believes otherwise.

Colm two wrongs hardly make a right. There are dozens of things that the Taliban are or have been engaged in that are terribly wrong, it hardly makes it acceptable to behave like a pack of animals towards them.

lamb..where on.either thread about this have i said uts in any way “acceptabke” ive condemned their actions but offered mitigation…the same mitigatiin.i would accept from.a person drawn into taliban or other such organisation. these soldiers will face justice for this from.their army…ever heard of a terrorist court martialled for breaching their groups rules…no didnt think so

In my experience a sentence that reads: “the following is not in justification but…” generally precedes a defence or justification…

And will the journal show that horrible disgraceful video? No because he is an American but they are happy to show horrible disgraceful video when the subject is not a westerner. This is at the core of raceism, treat others as you would like to be treated, not how they treat you.

No. He wasn’t beheaded by the Taliban.

Your right Daithi, it was islamic militants.

It was in Iraq too, by the way. And he was part of the US apparatus, in case you didn’t know.

Ah that’s alright then. Beheading ‘parts of American apparatus’ is ok but god forbade pissing over the dead parts of Taliban apparatus.

Dom, cant say that was funny because id be red thumbed to death. Sarcastically hilarious

No problem with that. I thrive on red thumbs. The less I am in line with public opinion the more I know I am right.

Indeed.

The soldier second from the right

I think they are just praying.

You minx

Wow!

Im kinda 65% with you on this, I dont agree with pissing on corpses, but it is war, ive never been in a war, only maybe for the remote control, but if you can imagine a bullet piercing flesh, and seeing death and destruction everyday – it would probably make you crazy and do some stuuupid fucked up shit.not encouraging pissin on corpses… Please dont piss on family, and of course, the live ones. No TAR-MACin either…freaks!

Where exactly does that logic become questionable if applied to all stuff that can happen in a war?

Kinda best not to engage that sort thinking at all, because inevitably when this stuff is used against the side you support; you’re views will differ.

Melissa
no it is not right .
No matter how bad the afghans were
they did not deserve this treatment in death.
They could not defend themselves against this behavior.
Terrible things happen in war and we know this but for us
to applaud their actions takes our self respect.
It is not right ,but it is understandable given the stress and pressures these guys are under.
They should and will face the consequences of their actions.

What….give them a Medal of Piss…only Bear Grylls deserves that!

Save your water kill the roses, eh?

Melissa, everyone is entitled to dignity in death. There is no excuse for this behaviour, it is inhumane and disrespectful. Think of the members of the dead men’s families who may have no terrorist involvement whatsoever. Is it acceptable to insult the memory for the people they loved like this? I don’t think so. It is very important that the behaviour of others does not influence an individuals personal standards. I do not doubt that Taliban members and others have committed terrible deeds against the occupying forces of the U.S. but to lower their moral standards to this level makes them no better than what you have described as “crazy Afghans”.

Eileen, I agree with most of what you have said, however, I don’t feel that this behaviour is understandable in any circumstances. If the men in the video are marines as is alleged, they are highly trained professional soldiers and should behave as such in the environments they were trained to operate in.

Ultan Quirke
I accept what you say , American marines are very highly trained and should know better . However we do not know what led to this . We wont know until there is an enquiry. I do not condone this at all and I do not know how things really are at war , how would we react , Fear relief hatred training bravado, a hot pot of emotions if you ask me .

Eileen, I understand that we don’t know what led to this, but in my opinion that is irrelevant. My point is that it doesn’t matter what led to this, it still deserves unqualified condemnation. I will not accept any explanation that in any way diminishes the responsibility of the (alleged) soldiers involved.

If that happened to dead Irish solders on a UN mission there is no way the journal would show the video, Journal is it because they are Arab that you think its ok to show the video and pictures?

I diasagree. A pictures tells a thousand words, and it’s the only way you’re gonna get people to pay attention to what these scumbags do

The Journal did not publish the video, they merely linked to it. Is it right to censor our news? I don’t believe it is.

Ultan the Journal is a publisher and they published the photo above