Your son sounds ungrateful to be getting money in the first place then

If anyone is getting a part time job for the christmas, dont take their word for it. make them right it down and sign it that you will be “reinstated immediately” right after you finish the job. This happened to me last year. had got a job for 8weeks over Xmas period. told them it was for only 8 weeks. They told me no problem you will be able to sign on again. in the end i was waiting 4months jumping threw their hoops.

Nothing to do with ungrateful the system put him through hell, I don’t know what part of the post you didn’t get, but saying my son is ungrateful is wrong of you, I won’t go down to you level by answering you back on that comment about my son, and don’t post another thing about your opinion on my son, I will say no more

Darren

Mick’s son got off his ass and took a seasonal job on the advice of social welfare to take a seasonal job and didn’t claim social welfare for the time he was working. The system should work smoothly.

In 99% of cases retailers give these advertised jobs are always given to students who can work around their college hours.

Most of these jobs are in retail and require ‘previous retail experience’.
Job seekers outside of this area who have lost their jobs are generally considered ‘over qualified’ and those on long term unemployment with no retail experience are considered to be ‘under qualified’.

Mick. Don’t post about your son if you don’t want a rebuttal.

Jason I was given people a quick over view of the system and what it does when people take up seasonal work, the post was not about someone not doing the work it was about the system not doing what they say,

Anything to make those figures look good even for a month

jees Patrick – does nothing make you happy?

Yeah it’s almost a days wage if you’re on minimum wage. Also the Christmas bonus used to be an extra 100% for many years. People were literally financially better off not working on Christmas week.

No you are right. 25% is just nice. Not too much, not too scabby. It’s about right.

So far as I know it’s only being paid to people on the Household Benefits package – which means mostly pensioners.

Of course you like Fine Gael, Jack.
But you are aware that not many do?

Except the majority that overwhelmingly voted for them.

Paul, I don’t particularly like Fine Gael. I gave their candidate my No. 1 last time though. I like Leo Varadkar too although I used to think he was racist.
I hated the spend spend spend mentality of Fianna Fáil without proper sustainable policies for the future. The perfect example -The 100% Christmas bonus was just buying votes instead of doing what was the right thing for the country.

Jason,
I used present tense, I wouldn’t be relying on those votes or FG seats going forward.
Jack,
Try this as an experiment:
1. Click through to the link to your Facebook page
2. Scan your list of favourite, in particular, look out for the words “Fine Gael”
3. Reread your response and maintain self-respect.
4. Realise what this means to you publicly and resolve never to lie again.

You could of course change your Facebook page, but that won’t change what you are.

Paul. I’ve never posted anything about Fine Gael on Facebook just pics of cats n stuff. I don’t know what you’re talking about. I honestly don’t like or dislike Fine Gael.

I am fine with pensioners, and disabled getting it… but the unemployed should only get it once.
If you are unemployed for more than 12 months you are too restricted in your job search and should either go re-train or be cut off.

Really John S ? That’s thr truth is it ? Or is it absolute nonsense? You are talking rubbish . I work harder for my ” free” money that you or most other people I’m betting .

he must be living with his parents.

Nope Noreen, lives in social housing. Labour wants us to have a welfare state and thats exactly what they got. I myself worked freelance for 12 months while living at home and looking for full time employment. I didn’t claim the dole at any stage during those 12 months because their are many more people in this country that need the money more than myself.

Not sure how stringent it is but it is means tested already

It is means tested, you idiot.

Well then the means testing is clearly not done properly you f#cking tw@t. If so many people are able to waste money at the expense of the state.

Of course it’s means tested. You have no idea how he manages his money and where his overall spend goes you are just here on a rant . Dole us means tested and there are lots of checks in place and lots of follows up to where I spectors come out to yoyr house unexpectedly and look into everything and you may have to provide all your bank statements for the last six months twice a year. So it’s all quite intrusive and not a picnic by any means and an easy ride .

Exactly. Clearly with us all paying a lot of tax through vat and income tax we don’t want to see people taking advantage and getting things they don’t deserve. However that’s not to say there aren’t people struggling to making ends meet in what is a very small amount of money.

If people have paid stamps they are entitled to dole. Means test it ??? So some s..b.g who milks system and never works deserves full whack cos he’s poor but someone who has a few bob isn’t entitled despite paying prsi and tax all his life, ridiculous

It is meant to be just enough for survival – not supposed to be a pleasant existence at all. No wonder people stay on it for years.

Why don’t you give up your job and claim it then ? If you feel you can support you and your family then by all means quit your job and sign on.

Silly comment.

I would be in favour of cutting it – there is no reason a healthy person over 18 should not have a job.

May not be the dream job, but it’s a small step in a positive direction. It would breed a healthy attitude and a desire to better yourself

Maybe there are no real jobs out there you fool.

Tell the truth your a government TD or Senator posing under a fictitious profile….

Can anybody give me a reason why a healthy person over 18 can’t get a job and contribute?

There are jobs…again may not be the dream one and it might not be enjoyable but it’s a positive move and you would never regret it.

400,000 unfilled job vacancies out there – who knew???

The job man doesn’t just turn up….you have to go out and look.

I never said there were 400,000 jobs either.

Anything to wriggle out of a days work!

Needs to be 400,000 for everyone to have a job – simple logic!

C b you are a fool there are no jobs out there.

there are not 400,000 unemployed anymore, and a quick scan at Irishjobs.ie shows over 10,000

So, not quite 400,000 minus 10,000 = full employment!

Very good cynic

But you get the idea, get up off your hole and look

Agree, no argument with that!

Cb2010
”Can anybody give me a reason why a healthy person over 18 can’t get a job and contribute?
There are jobs…again may not be the dream one and it might not be enjoyable but it’s a positive move and you would never regret it”

I have spoke to and worked with many very well educated and also not so well educated job seekers both short and long term unemployed over the age of 40 in Ireland on a voluntary or working capacity, and I would love to hear your thoughts Cb2010.

There are many people over the age of 40 in Ireland desperately looking for jobs in a market that seems to only for some reason want to employ 20 – 30 year olds.

Ireland is an extremely unusual country in this respect for not recognising workforce diversity.

So in the Irish market context, as you say ‘dream job or otherwise’, can you advise how older people can best successfully secure a job in this situation, and why it seems that even in lower level jobs, discrimination seems to exist?
In terms of higher level jobs, unless you know an influencer/family member it appears you have absolutely no chance of probably even getting an interview in the first place. Which completely goes against getting the best person for the job.

Since I was 17 years old I worked. I worked through school and through college. In all that time I was unemployed for 3 months and wouldn’t sign on because I kept hiding puy for a job offer from one of the 100 or so places I applied. I then worked full time including every Sunday for feck all money for the past few years in the same business. I was made redundant when the business closed down a few months ago and since then have not been able to find employment. I’m a hard working, healthy person over 18 and can’t get a job. I’ve applied for everything from cleaning right up to what I’m qualified for and have been offered nothing.
So don’t you say there’s plenty of jobs. You obviously have no idea what you’re talking about you willfully ignorant fool. People like you make my blood boil. You tar everyone with the same brush and think anyone without a job is lazy. Well I really and truly hope you find yourself in a similar position some day and see how it makes you feel to be labeled as such.

*holding out

Keep the faith poisonivy – you will get there, you have previous work experience and hopefully something will come up.

Hi PoisonIvy,

I am in no doubt that you will find a job – my point was directed to those that do nothing and don’t try.

Best of luck