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Dáil to discuss proposed ‘Irish SOPA’ legislation next Tuesday

TDs will give statements on the proposed legislation being prepared by Seán Sherlock for 50 minutes next Tuesday evening.

Richard Bruton plans to sign legislation being prepared by his junior innovation minister, Sean Sherlock.
Richard Bruton plans to sign legislation being prepared by his junior innovation minister, Sean Sherlock.
Image: Laura Hutton/Photocall Ireland

A DÁIL DEBATE on Seán Sherlock’s controversial proposals for new laws on online copyright is to be held on Tuesday.

A 50-minute session of statements on the “proposed amendment to Section 40 of the Copyright and Related Rights Act, 2000” has been pencilled in for Tuesday evening, beginning shortly before 6pm.

The discussion, made as a late amendment to the Dáil schedule by the party whips today, will allow TDs to raise their concerns over the proposed new laws, which will give copyright holders the right to seek a court injunction blocking access to copyright-infringing websites.

The arrangement comes after Sherlock, the junior minister responsible for innovation, last night agreed to hold a Dáil debate before the new legislation was signed.

Sherlock told the Dáil yesterday that he remained committed to implementing new laws, but that he was not opposed to primary legislation on the issue – which would require the approval of the Dáil and Seanad before it could be passed.

As it takes the form of a statutory instrument and not a full Act of the Oireachtas, the current draft of the new law does not need Oireachtas approval – and is given legal effect simply when it is signed by the relevant minister.

A brief debate was held on the subject in the Dáíl during yesterday’s Topical Issues session, but was limited to 15 minutes because it was not possible to fit more time into the previously agreed schedule.

Sherlock had committed to introducing the new law before the end of the month, but has pushed it back after a major groundswell of from internet users who have dubbed it the ‘Irish SOPA’ because of its wide-ranging potential ramifications.

Legal vacuum

The fears over the plans’ possible effects had prompted attacks on the websites of two government departments from members of the Anonymous movement earlier this week.

The legislation is being brought forward in order to resolve a legal vacuum created by a High Court ruling which said Ireland had not offered legislation in line with an EU directive on copyright protection.

In a case taken by EMI Ireland against the internet provider UPC, Justice Peter Charleton said that while allowing access to certain filesharing websites enabled a breach of intellectual property, Ireland did not offer a legal means for an injunction to be sought – a right provided under EU directives.

A later ruling by the European Court of Justice, however, ruled that asking internet service providers to filter traffic carried on their networks for the purposes of stopping illegal filesharing was a breach of other EU e-commerce directives allowing the free conduct of business.

An online petition opposing the planned legislation, launched on Monday night, had gathered over 55,000 signatures at midnight on Friday morning.

In full: Seán Sherlock’s draft proposals for online copyright law

Video: Yesterday’s Dáil discussion on the controversial ‘Irish SOPA’

Read: Ireland’s ‘SOPA’ legislation: The big arguments for and against

Q&A: Everything you need to know about Ireland’s SOPA

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Comments (34 Comments)

  • Where is Enda Kenny’s & Gilmore’s two cents on all of this?…this has been up for debate all week in the media & not a word from the leaders of the country, on an issue as serious as this id expect better…serious lack of leadership

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    • Curtsy of Stephen Donnelly TD

      Wednesday January 25, 2012

      Stephen Donnelly

      “There is much concern about legislation proposed by the Minister of State at the Department of Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation, Deputy Sean Sherlock, for Tuesday next. I have been contacted, as I am sure many Deputies have, by many people who are concerned about this. I have just got off the phone from someone who runs a major Internet company in Ireland. His concern, and that of his colleagues who are running other Internet companies, is that they will immediately have to shut down all operations because this legislation would force them into the courts because they cannot control all links to IP. There is huge concern about this. The people I talk to say they cannot get their hands on the legislation to see it and debate it. It is due to be passed as secondary legislation by ministerial order on Tuesday. Would it be possible to pause the ministerial order, even for a few days, and to have the legislation published and debated by the House? I have spoken to some very credible people in Ireland who are saying this has serious implications for Internet provision in Ireland, for American multinationals here and for the smart economy and so forth.”

      The Taoiseach

      “I have read the report of this. The Minister of State, Deputy Sherlock, is dealing with the matter. In the High Court judgment of 11 October 2010, in the case of EMI & Others v UPC, Mr. Justice Charleton decided he was constrained by the wording of the Copyright and Related Rights Act 2000 and thus could not grant an injunction to prevent infringement of copyright against UPC, which is an information service provider, ISP, in the circumstances of mere conduit, or transient communications. In doing so Mr. Justice Charleton stated that Ireland had not fully transposed the relevant directive. The mere conduit principle provides that if an ISP does not initiate a transmission or modify the material contained in the transmission and does not select the receiver of the transmission it is granted safe harbour against liability by virtue of the eCommerce Directive 2000/31/EC. However, according to the same directive this freedom from liability does not affect the power of the courts to require service providers to terminate or prevent copyright infringements.

      This gets very complicated. I understand the matter is being brought before the Cabinet, so there will be some short period for explanation. I could give the Deputy a very detailed response.

      The Attorney General, at that time, was asked by the Department of Communications, Energy and Natural Resources for his advice as to the implications of the High Court judgment. While the Attorney General considered that the position is not as clear cut as Mr. Justice Charleton suggests, his advice was that as long as the Irish courts take the view that subsection 40(4) of the Copyright and Related Rights Act 2000 does not implement Article 8.3 of the relevant directive, Ireland is exposed to a claim for damages for failure to implement EU law. The prudent course he advised was to introduce a regulation to ensure compliance.

      It is a complicated procedure but I expect the Minister of State will explain it more fully. I am aware of the comments some providers have made.”

      Stephen Donnelly

      “Could the legislation be paused, even for a few days before it is published?”

      The Taoiseach

      “It will be before the Cabinet shortly and there will be an opportunity to discuss that.”

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    • @ Gavin McGuinness. So our Taoiseach thinks ISP stands for Information Service Provider. Shows how often he uses the internet, doesn’t it. :)

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    • says it all doesn’t it! :P

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    • Stopping people viewing on the internet….. I cant see why rte would want to give it coverage :p

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  • Lets see how many td’s will still be around for this at 6pm. Not many i feel.

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  • I just sent an email to sean.sherlock@oireachtas.ie I outlined, as someone with a degree in Computers and who works on website development, why I think this is a very bad idea. I encourage everyone to get in contact so that he at least understands the power of the internet. If this law passes you could be saying goodbye to everything from youtube, twitter, facebook and more. It really is easier to shut those sites down in ireland (pop. 4million) than to police them for every single copyright infringement.

    I want to be allowed to post a clip of a gig I was at on youtube and then share it on facebook and twitter without those websites getting sued.

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    • Aydo 27/01/12 #

      Emailed and twittered him.
      He’s a pawn and a moron.
      He’ll do whatever he’s told to do except by the people who elected him.

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    • I called the office and persisted until I got an opportunity to discuss the matter with somebody who was involved in the transposition of the directive. I emailed also and signed the petition @ http://stopsopaireland.com/. I am currently living abroad but if there is going to be a protest of some description I would be happy to get on the next flight to support. This can’t happen and won’t happen if we don’t let it happen. We all need to fight back on this one.

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  • See you next tuesday so!!

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  • Should 50 minutes of the reading of pre-prepared scripts even be called a debate? Probably the best we’re going to get however!

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  • C. U. N.ext T.uesday;)

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  • This anti-piracy bill, although I support protecting copyright of people’s endeavours and creative talents, I do believe this ‘Irish SOPA’ is just a forerunner to more stringent and invasive censoring of the Internet and people’s freedom of expression. Giving the government or one minister the power to dictate Internet policy is quite a dangerous development. Its Orwellian in it’s design and ‘Big Brother’ is alive. Social networking sites will be forced to police the web and remove all copyrighted material. This will undermine the attractiveness of Facebook© ™etc as a lot of people discover new music, films and other content by sharing on social network sites. What about YouTube™ etc? The Internet can be seen as the last ‘free’ medium. With this law it will be no longer.

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  • That’s all well and good but how many of the gobshitęs will bother turning up?

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  • Supposing this stupid law is passed, sites like YouTube will then legally have to be blocked in this country as they contain copyright material – and thats just the tip of the iceberg. What will that say to prospective technology companies considering locating in Ireland, simple? Don’t. And how will this law be policed? Do we have a garda IT Bureau large enough and qualified enough to police the internet in Ireland considering they can’t police our streets?

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    • Rory 28/01/12 #

      Anything the Computer Fraud Dep. say would be misinterpreted by the media and the government themselves (*cough Alan Shatter)

      Like when the media reported the so-called ‘Corrib Rape Tape’ had been tampered with. Sounds like they did a bit of editing, doesn’t it? Other clips on the memory card containing confidential interviews for college research were deleted under guidance of NUI Maynooth educators. RTÉ reported Alan Shatter as saying the tape had been tampered with.

      I don’t know what the Gardai said, but it is very unfortunate that people in a position of power (*cough Alan Shatter and RTÉ) in this country are technology illiterate and can jump very fast to conclusions about technology. The DPC is one of the few good people who are in power in this country, who understands technology and how to regulate it properly.

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  • Anyone else see the irony in the fact that part of the affected leglislation is covered under section “40(4)” of the Copyright and related rights act, 2000?

    Error 404: Common sense not found.

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  • It is some concession but not nearly enough when you think about the possible ramifications of such laws

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  • dave 27/01/12 #

    What’s the point of a Dail debate? Most of the muppets in there have no understanding or interest in this issue so anyone expecting informed input and comment from most of our elected representatives will be sorely disappointed. My guess is the Chamber will be empty….

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  • Yet still no mention of any form of discussion on whether Ireland should have signed ACTA….

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  • Sherlock is really a SOPAthethic person. a bull in a China shop. what the junior minister knows about the internet could be written in capital letters on the back of a postage stamp.

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  • http://mashable.com/2012/01/26/fbi-social-media-monitoring/

    Please check this out! The FBI are planning this. Talk about the land of the free??? Don’t make me laugh!

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  • jimbo 27/01/12 #

    Typical! Drag it out some more…..

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  • alan 27/01/12 #

    the next cabinet reshuffle will be interesting

    this is another of those occasions when what might be consdiered to be a somewhat indifferent public get polticised very, very quickly

    just what fg/lab don’t need

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  • I’ve one question for Sherlock, or anyone else who cares to answer it. What will happen if this legislation is not implemented?

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    • That question really depends on how it fails. If it fails in a daíl vote it has drastic consequences for the already fragile state of government. If it fails threw withdrawal then it has drastic consequences for Sherlock. On our side no matter how it fails it shows that freedom is a right more important than profit which could trigger a few events quite possibly. The main effects would be further damage to capitalists which I think we’d all love to see.

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  • And up and coming artists will be told you no longer exists haa Idiots you dummies ACTA

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  • “The legislation is being brought forward in order to resolve a legal vacuum created by a High Court ruling which said Ireland had not offered legislation in line with an EU directive on copyright protection.
    In a case taken by EMI Ireland against the internet provider UPC, Justice Peter Charleton said that while allowing access to certain filesharing websites enabled a breach of intellectual property, Ireland did not offer a legal means for an injunction to be sought – a right provided under EU directives.
    A later ruling by the European Court of Justice, however, ruled that asking internet service providers to filter traffic carried on their networks for the purposes of stopping illegal filesharing was a breach of other EU e-commerce directives allowing the free conduct of business.” If this is the case then Sean should be arrested or at least thrown out of the parliament house… our country is blatantly breaking the law

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  • The Journal are doing a fantastic job of keeping this story afloat. Now we need more signatures.

    http://stopsopaireland.com/

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