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Column: Pope Benedict saw sense by retiring early, John Paul II should have too

We need a pope that will listen to the wider church and wider world, writes Fr Seamus Ahearne, who reflects on the previous two popes’ achievements and failures.

Fr Seamus Ahearne

THE NEWS BROKE on Monday morning and people were shell-shocked. Some church people who spoke used that word – shock. But I don’t understand it. Yes, it was a surprise, but hardly shocking. The real shock was that John Paul II didn’t also have the sense or gumption or even faith to have done the same. Wasn’t he advised to do it?

Benedict surprised people, but he often did. It’s delightful that he has now broken with tradition of staying in the post until death and this could possibly be his most radical decision.

Pope Benedict is an interesting man, but many were saddened in 2005 when he was elected. It seemed we were to have continuity inflicted on us rather than any new energetic leadership. However Benedict was also misunderstood. He worked for John Paul II in the Congregation for the Doctrine office and was spoken of as John Paul’s rottweiler, which defined him.

Ratzinger

I remember a time when Joseph Ratzinger was invited to give the Tablet Lecture in London. The journalists turned up to scrutinise him but he charmed them. He was then the real academic and, at home, in the banter of argument. He won them over completely.

I was asked by a radio reporter about my views on his trip to the UK and I said it would be a huge success. I said he would speak on the issues of the day; he would come across as a gentle man with a smile; he would listen; he would show his reflective mind. People would be won over by him. I was also asked how I felt he would be welcomed to Ireland. I was very dubious about that.

When I read his letter to the people of Ireland after the Ryan and Murphy Reports, I found the core of the letter to be very pastoral and warm. The best of the man came out in those words. When it came to recommendations – it didn’t sound like him at all. In fact, it was ridiculous.

John Paul II

John Paul II was a giant of a man on the world stage.  He had a great presence and was a man of influence who gave the Church a new place in world politics. However, he was a creature of his own past. He never managed to live the life of faith in the ‘free world.’ He was a fighter and a very tough opponent. He spoke with great eloquence  and his actor’s ability mesmerised people. But his words sounded better than they read – or were. It was very sad that he remained as Pope for so long.

The church needed someone better than he was and better than he could be. I was deeply saddened by his lack of insight. I also think that the process of  his Beatification began with undue haste, which disregarded the mistakes of his papacy and his rigidity. It follows too that many who were selected as Leaders (bishops throughout that long papacy then became clones of his outlook). That was bound to be the case, however it doesn’t help our future.

Sometimes it seems that the Church being created is more like the establishment that Christ came to replace.

Pope Benedict was never a commanding media presence. However, he reflected deeply and did address the issues of the day. In many ways he came to the office much too late. His theological musings were deeply impressive and needed. Of course he was also snarled up in his own bureaucracy and fears. He embraced retrenchment – but now he is an old man. He is tired. He doesn’t have the energy and it’s wonderful that he recognises that he must go.

What now? Who now?

This assembly of old men (in the main) who will gather in Conclave are very conservative. Many are shattered by the collapse of the Church in the West. Some can only see one way forward – that is a retreat to the past. My hope is that they will listen to the wider church and to the wider world. I hope they will listen and search for a man who can be strong enough to have something to say in our world today and be a leader of inspiration.

We want a big man who is not overwhelmed by problems and who shows people that Christ is good news. We need a man who isn’t afraid of the media, who can speak, who can lift our spirits, who is young enough in mind and heart, who is humble, who is not afraid of change, who knows that God can deal with every question and every problem, who realises that not everything depends on him, and who truly can call forth leadership in our Church.

The local church is a wonderful place to be, where community and the joy of faith is experienced, however the central government of it all can be such an embarrassment.

Our Church has to be outward looking and refreshing. We must show that Christ does make a difference and we aren’t afraid. It would be right and proper if women were given their say, that all our leaders retired at 70… this list could go on and on!

But we need above all a man of real faith, who isn’t afraid of the world.

Fr Seamus Ahearne presides over Rivermount Parish, Finglas.

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Comments (62 Comments)

  • ….. and perhaps a Pope that will allow Women to become priests and Priests to enjoy marriage.

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    • “Call good and Evil by name”. These words spoken with the authority that only a Pontiff collapsed the evil charade of Communism. The present Pope has done all that he needed to do. Watch this space.

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    • Until the Catholic Church stops covering up its sins the lot of them should “retire”.
      A bit like Ireland over the last few years, loads of good citizens and leaders but a few at the top and scattered throughout the community are rotten and cover up wrongdoing, this reflects badly on the lot of us.

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    • Ferg 17/02/13 #

      Women priests can’t happen. Married priests is an alterable facet but we won’t see it this generation.

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    • Catholics like any other religious are entitled to hold their beliefs , Religion isn’t a fashion accessory that changes to suit peoples lifestyles , therefore when I hear the word ‘outward looking’ it makes me cringe , does that mean the church needs to condone drug use and Gun freedom , does it need to re-write the bible to suit peoples needs ?? many people who keep moaning about the church have no interest one way or another in living a religious life , so even if the church came out tommorrow and said it was doing away with all its teachings to accomodate everybodys lifestyles , not only would the begrudgers not go to mass or worship even then but the church itself would no longer be based on scripture it would be based on whats popular today .

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  • Sharrow 17/02/13 #

    The RC church went from a reformer in JP never saw all of Vatican 2 put in place, who tried to involve the layity with the cells program to the conservative that is Benedict. But the abuses happened on both thier watches.

    Fr Seamus I know is much beloved in his parish & for his sake & the community the serves I hope the RC church gets the reforms it needs time for a more humble & penitant church.

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  • I think the author is right. The world was disappointed with Benedict’s selection 8 years ago. The world is a much colder place for the church (generally) now than 8 years ago. Benedicts was a disappointment, the wrong man for the time. They need something radical to arrest the slide but Benedict’s legacy of cardinals probably prevents that.

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    • Agreed. Expect the conservatism to continue though in the world’s largest organisation. I’d also expect that there will be a stiff letter of censure arriving for Fr. Ahearne from his boss for expressing an opinion. Ah yes, the Catholic Church – stifling opinion and progress for the last thousand years.

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  • Looking forward to a bunch of fallible men making another man infallible.

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  • My question is what good does anyone think that he did? Faith, dogmatic rigidity, firm and even repressive authority have not been balanced against by any good done. The expression of love and charity were missing.

    The major concern is the idolatry for the incumbert of the Papacy. Perhaps it is to be expected that the simple laity and priesthood will end up embueing false and exaggerated qualities into the incumbent, a wish to feel better about their religion but reality has to be accepted or else religion descends to the level of tribal loyalty.

    Of course it is utterly contemptuous to exclude women from the priestgphood, it is self damaging to exclude married priests but the striking failure to deal with child tape, to place institutional self protection before dealing with that shocking evil is the greatest failure. That caused me to leave the RCC.

    To describe homosexual people as objectively disordered is to show naked and hateful homophobia, to refuse to allow artificial contraception is the action of an extreme religious sect and to impose a notion that human personhood starts at the moment of conception is irrational and superstitious.

    Love, decency, humanity, charity, compassion and simple affection for humanity are the hallmarks of truly Christian faiths. In all of these aspects, the Pope was materially deficient.

    What is now gushing out from Ms. O’Brein, religious writers and the author of this article is fanciful, distorted and devoted silliness which elevates the admiration of a position at the expense of recognising the qualities of a true Christian.

    It is bad enough that there is a limited notion of papal infallibility but when the position has arrived that the Pope can do no wring and is the subject of acclamation for a simple and rational decision to retire before death, that is the sign of delusional thinking.

    No good was done.

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  • Well whatever his reasons for retiring I am more worried about his successor. I am not saying I believe in the prophecy of the popes but consider this, the next pope is supposed to be the last one. He is to be called ” Peter the Roman” and is referred to as a Black Pope. Now obviously the favourite is Peter Turkson from Ghana but if you look a bit deeper you will find that Turkson will not have a chance. I won’t go into details but it is safe to rule him out, it is just a ruse to put us off who the real successor will be . Listen up. There is a candidate who is only about 5 th favourite in the betting and his name is Bertone Tarcisio. But his full name is Bertone PIETRO Tarcisio . . And he is from Rome , so Peter the Roman . However the real freaky fact is HHS surname TARCISIO is an anagram of ISCARIOT !!

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  • The Roman Catholic Church is opposed to Human progress, quality of life and true liberty. It is guilty of many crimes against humanity. Ratzinger’s legacy of his handling of the Child Rape and other abuses on the societies weakest. His blatant lies on condom use and aids in Africa. His attacks on the Gay community. The pure stupidity of his teachings on contraception.
    The sentimentality surrounding the retirement of this old man is deeply misplaced, he should be arrested and put on trial for crimes against humanity.

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    • Niall 17/02/13 #

      Bang on. The church is a crusty, antiquated and corrupt body. It’s also ridiculous in this day and age that so many people actually believe there is a bearded fairy in the sky. It beggars belief.

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    • So we should hound these God-beleivers out of existence? Round them up get them to “concentrate”?

      Not like that’s been tried before……

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    • No colm, well leave them to continue killing thousands of people around the world with their teachings. Better?

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    • Colm, over the centuries I wonder who’s been doing the hounding!? When’s been burning heretics, the Inquisition butchered and tortured thousands. Interesting fact The Inquisition is now known as The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. This is a fact. And who operated CDF for 30 odd years…Ratzinger.

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    • How refreshing of Colm to ‘Godwin’ the comments. Problem is, he’s got his point the wrong way around, as William has rightly pointed out.
      Catholics: the ‘oppressed’ majority.
      Hitler was a christian btw, and jews have suffered most at the hands of christians (throughout Europe), than at the hands of their semitic brethren, the muslims.

      “Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.” Adolph Hitler

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  • The real reasons why he resigned will all come out in the wash soon enough, he, as the head of the catholic church was/is going to be investigated for being the pimp of the biggest paedophile ring in the history of man, thousands of priests moved around like chess pieces to protect the church. People who still follow this religion are complicit in my humble opinion, shame on you all for still throwing your money into an organization that have hidden billions of euro, that have a property portfolio that would make a Saudi sheikh weep,that enslaved thousands of Irish woman, off ya go now like good little servants and strike your breast as the catholic church decides which cardinal most suits the job ( as in keeps his gob shut)

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    • Niall 17/02/13 #

      Well said. On the one hand I respect people’s individual faith levels and all that. It’s their business. But to follow a regime so corrupt and to do so rarely with question is a joke.

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    • You forgot to mention all the help, compassion, love and hope that the Catholic Church has given people over the years. Just saying.

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    • The real reason is already out , he was going to be arrested

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    • Philip, all that help and compassion was given by good people within the church. That’s not the same thing. Those people would have been good people doing good even of they were outside the church.

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    • The church is just people manonthestreet. Good people, bad people, smart people and stupid people, just like every other club, business, organisation etc. I’m not a holy Joe or anything but I find it unbelievably hypocritical of people who feel that they are so open minded to just look at the church and say “paedo’s” and what not. You can’t say the church hasn’t, in a lot of cases, had a brilliant impact on people’s lives and it never gets mentioned. That’s all I’m saying and before any of you open minded and modern cosmopolitans start shouting, I can obviously see the negatives too.

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    • No, the church isn’t just people Philip. It’s a multinational organisation with incredible wealth and power.
      That organisation claims the credit for all the very good work some of its members do. They cover up and hide the things that damage it’s influence.
      When you separate the church from its members, you will see it’s ordinary people doing the good and will struggle to see any good done by the church.

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    • @ Philip:
      “Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” Steven Weinberg

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  • Why would anybody with a clean conscience want to enter into a deal for immunity from prosecution?
    Only askin’ !

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  • “Hard pruning brings strong growth” is the reply given by the Pope when asked about the severity of the vetting of seminarians reducing their numbers. This and other positive approaches will see a stronger Catholic Church.

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    • Sane people do not want a “stronger” Catholic church. They abused their position of power for long enough, why don’t they just go away and stop pestering people with their stupid hogwash and dressup parties.

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  • Religion, what a load of bollocks, sooner churches bankrupt the better

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    • The church should start paying tax like any other business.

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    • You’re entitled to believe in it or not. I don’t hold it to be true, but refrain from insulting believers because of their sincerely held opinions.
      As for bankruptcy, some consider the church is morally bankrupt. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. So long as any religion appoints a big chief, or relies on doctrines such as the “papal infallibility” nonsense embraced by the Vatican there will be trouble.
      A dose of poverty and humility might suit these usurpers in their fine vestments, perhaps inspire them to be more “on message” like the leader who entrusted the church to them 2000 years ago. Since when they have often “failed to deliver”. Christianity will survive, perhaps with a better suited role model than the current corrupt and tainted church of Rome.

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  • Just saying but an earthquake hit near Rome last night….

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  • I hope for a pope that will not get enmeshed in the structures of the church, but lead in Christs creed,
    I fear a situation where the structures will be so overwhelming that my creed, the Christianity of Jesus will be lost to generations.
    My suggestion would be to appoint a body of people from all “sides” of political opinion within the church to start working on the structures, and for the new Pope to concentrate on Christs message

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  • Funny he retired just before the release of the damning documentary Mea Maxima Culpa

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  • Why would JP2 give up the power to tell 1 billion people what to do? Or at least try to anyway.

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  • very well said all of your article….and the age limit is a must otherwise the ritualistic ‘church’ which is so European in itself since the 12th 13th century ‘reforms enforced by the Norman prelates will destroy what remains. If the teachings of Christ are not adhered to, above the ‘tradition’, then we are right to ignore the collection box rattling groups. At mass this morning the words “I came not to judge the people” were used, let this be the case let love lead us forward and with the help of God a new pope will be chosen who leads us forward and not backwards.

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  • I doubt he even believes in god

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  • think he came in stating he was changing things that john paul worked so hard doing , i got turned off him straight away, the youth masses and music were stopped straight away in vatican city, while jp worked so hard with the youth, the youth was the way to go and jp worked so hard and was so human on those affairs, he was a people person, and i feel benedict did not rule from the heart, he was a follow the book sort of pope,, never warmed to him, and feel if someone wants to lead people they have to show a little heart and a smile occasionaly

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  • Yawn, yawn, the usual list of mediocrities going on about a man way beyond their league of petty gripes and agendas. Pope Benedict is a man of awesome faith and humility, things which may be beyond the grasp of many of you taking the opportunity to attack the RCC because it’s tenets challenge you. He is and will be faithful to the Church he belongs to and to his priestly ordination. God grant him health and peace in his retirement.

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  • The vileness and lies against the Pope is testominy to the great and unique work he has done. To even mention the great works he has done in this forum would be casting pearls amongst swine. It is fitting that habitual and boring Pope Kickers are furious

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    • Never fail to make me laugh Tom. I wonder what it’s like to live without the ability to think for ones self.

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    • Tom, people like you are what’s wrong with the pursuit of the truth and justice, you believe in a corrupt dysfunctional organisation that considers women lesser than men, that children who’ve been raped should not have a voice, and that people don’t have choices except those decreed by an old man in a stupid hat. How does it feel being you.

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    • I forgive you Tom for you know not what you do ! You to too like the thousands of raped catholic children are a victim of a malevolent RCC. That hierarchy betrayed the beliefs and trust of every catholic . Don’t you remember how the Pope was forced to apologise for the crimes committed . Why do you ignore this fact when it came from the popes mouth directly . Denying that a crimes was committed doesn’t make the crime or the victim go away no matter how hard you pray ! Equally saying sorry for a crime does not exonerate you . There must be justice for the oppressed and the wronged . The truth cannot be denied . For it is the oppressive swine at the top that trampled on the innocent children

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  • Something a little light hearted… My comments this day are 50:50 in thumbs green and red and my biggest fear has been realized… 50% of the population are FF catholics :-) noooooooooo

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  • What kind of waffle is this ??? To any person with a few functioning brain cells, the blatantly obvious reason why the Pope has resigned is that he was just about to be arrested for his part in the child abuse and the vatican banking scandals….. nothing to do with being “too old”.
    And he is now attempting to get immunity from prosecution to avert the potential collapse of the RCC.
    Fr Ahearn, you do yourself a grave dis-service by ignoring these facts (although I reckon you are probably bound to toe the party line here and would be ousted for actually speaking the truth.)

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  • isn’t he trying to absolve himself of any wrong doing as he’s about to be investigated for child abuse allegations?

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  • I remember watching Jp2 many years before he passed and thought that poor man should now retire ..how they let him go so long was cruel …

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