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14-year-old boy raped at Manchester department store

Police have released CCTV images of two men wanted in connection with the attack in a Debenhams store.

CCTV images of the two men wanted in connection with the rape of the 14-year-old
CCTV images of the two men wanted in connection with the rape of the 14-year-old
Image: Greater Manchester Police

POLICE IN ENGLAND are hunting for two men in connection with the rape of a 14-year-old boy in a department store in Manchester city centre.

Officers investigating the case this afternoon released CCTV images of the two men wanted in connection with the assault.

The attack happened on a Saturday afternoon at the start of June but police have been waiting for forensic results and working with the victim before deciding to issue an appeal for help from the public.

The teenager had been approached by two men when he went to the toilets in the Arndale shopping centre in the city centre.

One of the men grabbed him by the arm and told him, “Come with us, do what we say, and if you try to run we’ll get you”.  They led him to a nearby Debenhams department store where he was brought to a toilet and raped by one of the men.

The victim contacted the police after the attack.

“This young victim has been absolutely devastated by what happened to him,” said Detective Sergeant Liam Boden of North Manchester Criminal Investigation Department.

As a result we have ensured that he has been supported by officers who are trained in dealing with victims under this type of terrible circumstances.
What makes this incident doubly shocking is that he was marched across a busy part of the city centre during the late afternoon on [a] Saturday.

Police have called on the public to help identify the two men.

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Arndale Shopping Centre in Manchester (Photo: Dave Thompson/PA Wire)

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Comments (85 Comments)

  • Let the ba****ds who did that rot in a prison cell

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  • Poor kid, that’s horrific.

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  • This poor young man will never be the same again… It’s something that will be with him for the rest of his life. Hope that he gets all the support and help that he needs to get through this awful ordeal.

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  • Calling them animals is an insult to animals.

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  • So let’s see now, what punishment for these animals…. It’s time to get all medieval I think

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  • rusty blade to the mickey for those boys.

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  • They should have their b*lls placed on a counter & have them smashed with a cement brick. Sick b’tards !

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  • Bless the young fella. Hope he is well and can recover fully.

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  • Castrate them? Let them rot in prison? I’d be an angry tax payer if I was having to pay for that kind of rubbish (as we currently do). Human rights blah blah blah. How about “Human Responsibilities”?
    Simple, cheap solution : The death penalty. I’d pay for a bullet out of my own pocket and let the government spend my taxes on something worthy. Act like an animal, be put down like an animal.

    Roll on the red thumbs.

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    • totally agree.

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    • Green from me, but i would rather he suffered first.

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    • I’d pay for ur bullets to be aimed lower. Lower spine maybe. While your right they should be put down but I think they should suffer and that kid should some day get retribution. If its cruel to test drugs on chimps these are the type of animal who having taken from the human race should be used to further it at their expense

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    • Warren, unfortunately as with the rest if Europe we and the UK are subject to European law. Each referendum that I’m sure most posters here voted yes for gives ultimate Human Rights to the perpetrator and not the victim. I voted against Ahern’s referendum on getting rid of the death penalty. Unfortuanily the rest of the populace were duped towards and ultra liberal EU agenda.

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    • Ya won’t get a red thumb here mate… I would gladly take over from pierpoint… And for those who know me, they know I speak the truth. This poor young fella is ruined for life, no amount of support or councilling will allow him be free of his nightmare…. We would seriously be looking at bringing back the death penalty and before the amnesty brigade start on me, I am talking about putting animals to death who unequivocally have been found 100% guilty of killing another person. These two guys should be chemically castrated and sent o a prison of Siberian standards, not Hilton hotel standards.

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    • Steve 21/08/12 #

      In 2001 62% of the Irish public voted to remove the death penalty from the constitution.

      Explain what this has to do with the EU Paul please,you absolute clown.

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  • Hot poker up the ass,see how they like it. Makes me sick,those bast@&ds.

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  • Wow that’s horrifying.

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  • These “men” should be castrated! Disgusting, evil vermin!

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  • Horrific crime. They should get life.

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    • At least they will be tried as adults, unlike Jamie Bulger’s killers, who got new lives. Britain’s laws seem to be able to keep people in for longer, unlike other countries where life is 14yrs

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  • This is vile, no words can describe it. Hope they are caught rapidly.

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  • What gets me is in the era of HDTV, these CCTV cameras are still all pixilated and grainy! I’m sure they would get a far quicker response with something more clear!

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  • Sick.

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  • Poor kid, horrible to imagine what he is going through, it’s tough enough being a teenager without this type of thing happening, hopefully he has the courage to confront those pair of animals in court and secure a long prison term for the evil bastards.
    I really hope he will have access to the support mechanisms to help him through this difficult time.

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  • Horrible evil bastards! Hope they get what’s coming to them and more!

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  • The pic on the left is a fairly good pic so hopefully the bastard will be caught and because he is the lowest of the low, I’m sure he will rat out the other bastard hoping he will get treated better.
    Beat them to within an inch of their life. Off to hospital to fix them up then rinse and repeat until they live to a ripe old age . :)

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  • mother of god that’s awful I’m lost for words I feel so sorry for that poor boy shocking place our world has become

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  • Just awful. Poor young chap! How can people do things like this? Saw the two men on CCTV; they look really evil.

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    • Mary
      Maybe they look evil after the fact…trouble is nobody thought they looked evil enough when they dragged this poor young fella across a busy Manchester street on a busy Saturday afternoon, if they had this evil act would never have happened. This lad will find it hard to get over this, it would make you sick to your stomach.

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  • o may they suffer a slow agonising death …rotten bastards !!!!

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  • peter 21/08/12 #

    Added to that there is a high likelihood that they have done this before because a lot of boys of that age would be too ashamed to report a rape

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    • Very good point. A shopping centre is a fairly Brazen way to try this act for the first time….I’d say theyve done it before. Castrate the two of them

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    • Tommy to answer your question as to where in the world a country might practice something like castration ..the answer is easy…Saudi Arabia will comfortable remove a hand for those convicted of theft.it would seem that a majority of contributors would be happy in this case to follow such practices and a logical extension of the thinking in this appalling case would be castration as a standard penalty in all cases of rape.
      When this is written down and one has a moment to consider the issues surrounding such demands I have to be courageous enough to face the baying mob and say that Society should not behave in such a premeditated and animal like way. Surely we are better than the evil perpetrators of these appalling crimes.

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  • @ Conor Lynch what possible other side could there be ? They have been identified as the attackers !

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  • One of the pictures is fairly clear- they have to be found. Someone knows them!!

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  • Thought I could no longer be shocked. Normally a bleeding heart liberal but these bastards should be strung up. Poor kid.

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  • I would give special treatment and perks to lifers in prison, just so they could make these lads experience the same thing day in and day out for their entire sentence. Make them crave the death penalty. Raping someone is the worst crime of all.

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  • Bring back the death penalty for savages like these

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  • Tommy 21/08/12 #

    I feel absolutely terrible for this lad.
    Hopefully some day he’ll be able to get over this horrific act.

    Poor guy :(

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  • Get rid of them!

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  • The poor young boy. It’s damn awful and he could never fully recover from something like this- not mentally. Heartbreaking! I hope karma gets them men!

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  • Joan
    That wasn’t a police mugshot. It was ordinary CCTV footage from that day in the Shopping Centre. Still think the one on the left has a pretty predatory, shifty look about him.
    It’s just awful to think s’thing like that could happen to a 14-year old in broad daylight in a presumably busy shopping centre. Scary!

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  • How come the quality of cctv footage is always crap?

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    • Total up the amount of bytes they would record in one year and you would get a fright. There would be no point in having really high def recordings if you couldn’t store it for any length of time, a trade off has to be made unfortunately.

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  • Sick f**kers they deserve to be shot

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  • Death sentence needed. I know, some may think its harsh. But I think its well overdue to teach these sick **********s that there is no place for them among the living.

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  • People red thumbing comments I would like to ask ye……have ye children and if you did what would your reaction be?
    If that was one of my little girls god help them animals cause getting caught and going to prison would be the least of their problems.

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    • Totally agreed. When it comes to the safety of my wee daughter, just give me a shotgun, shovel and afternoon in the Dublin mountains and I’ll gladly save the taxpayer having to “treat” these “people” for their “sickness”.

      Once again, roll on the red thumbs from the gobsheens who don’t believe in the punishment fitting the crime. Let’s all hold hands, adjust our chakras and think happy thoughts, because that’ll make those poor, misunderstood “men” realise they’ve been naughty, which will automatically make it all better for the little boy involved. Ignorance, bliss etc etc etc.

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    • So Paul and warren it’s your way or the highway? Agree with death penalty or you’re a pussy?

      I’ve a little boy, only 3 years old, and what happened sickens me to my stomach, but I’m sorry, I don’t agree with the death penalty, it’s not a choice I make, it’s just me! I would be all for the perpetrator being tried, and if convicted locked up for life in a lot of cases. I also would advocate the most basic of food and zero privileges, never allowed out of his tiny cell, and never allowed visitors.

      This to me personally is the most harsh sentence I can think of while not being eye for an eye. It would completely satisfy me.

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    • If they did that to my children it is my way,I’m sorry but they are not thinking of my child’s future while doing them horrendous things to them…..just look at the lives the priests have destroyed by abusing kids,would you like that to be your child……..

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  • Sky news said it happened in June! They could be anywhere now ! :(

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  • ADM 21/08/12 #

    the victim of the crime and their family should pick the punishment.

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  • Are all the people red thumbing these comments paedo’s or something?
    Why would you disagree with 99.9% of these comments is beyond belief.
    @ Conor Lynch, I am dismayed by your comment.

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    • I haven’t thumbed any comments either way but I can offer a possibility.

      I for one am uncomfortable with the calls for blood – especially when the death penalty is called for (and more especially when it’s called for as an option to save money versus an appropriately long sentence).

      A few have commented on law favouring the perpetrator – it may be hard to swallow but law protects people until they are proven guilty – I’m not defending these guys but just look at the sheer volume of comments which call for blood versus the number who express concern for the victim.

      I’m not criticising anyone, I’m just saying that while this is extremely shocking and I hope for as much justice as is appropriate for the victim. I hope too that this horrible event is something he can overcome.

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    • I agree Tommy. The two pictured haven’t even been charged with the crime yet, much less convicted. Let’s wait until they are actually found guilty before passing sentence.

      Personally I would still oppose death sentence or castration however, since I have yet to see a judicial system that is 100% fool-proof and accurate. Sending an innocent person to jail would be terrible, but the possibility of killing or mutilating an innocent person to satisfy a public thirst for vengeance, however justified, would be unthinkable.

      Lock the perpetrator up and at the end of the normal sentence if there is a risk of them reoffending give them the choice of chemical castration or serving an extended sentence – possibly indefinate so long as they remain a risk of reoffending.

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    • Well they are directly looking for those two so I would assume they are guilty and I think it’s fair enough for people to make that assumption considering they are being chased down and I’m not going to be serving on a jury for their case….

      I just see it as pointless to call for vengeance rather than justice while forgetting the victim.

      As for the whole castration thing – is there any state in the world which practices this? I think I’ve read before that those who commit sexual assault are likely to re-offend. It’s certainly something I’d like to see some stats on but it seems like a genuine consideration given it could also save other potential victims.

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    • We dont know that they’re guilty though – we’re just assuming that they are because the police are looking for them. We dont know that the police think that these men are the culprits, though its probably a fair assumption, we certainly dont know on what strength of evidence such an assumption of guilt would be based.

      Terrible and unthinkable as the crime against this young boy is, it does not set aside the right of judicial due course – the purpose of the law is to punish and rehabilitate the offender, not make more victims.

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  • Terrible what happened that young lad, if I was driving them to court in prison van when angry mobs outside the court I’d stop and throw them out, I’m sure they’d get what they deserved, also they should be branded with a big R burned into their foreheads so everyone in prison knows what they did

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  • Sad as it is, I can’t understand how this happened in a possibly busy convenience store of sort, in a possibly very public area and the age of the assaulted person involved??? I dunno, was he disabled in anyway?

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  • TNR 21/08/12 #

    Jesus that’s shocking, feel terrible for the victim. How was it not obvious to anyone i wonder. Those responsible deserve the most severe punishment possible , pure badness in them. That lad will never get over what happened to him.

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  • why was my comment at the start deleted?!
    death via torture is a perfectly good way of dealing with these degenerates

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  • I’ve read that chemical castration only means the organ doesn’t work but the urge to penetrate is still there so these sick bastards graduate to using implements to get pleasure, it frightens me how someone who has the propensity to do this can ever be considered rehabilitated and fit to live near potential victims. That poor boy my heart goes out to him he will carry that with him always, I hope he has the support to live a full life. I hope these men are caught and punished but what punishment can ever erase their victim’s memory.

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  • Has my comment been deleted or has it gone awry? (again!)

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  • Why can’t these stores install proper CCTV. Hope these bastards rot.

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  • The guy on the left looks like the rapist from sin city

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  • they must be reading the journal r their likes with all the thumbs down

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  • There are some sick bastards that read this site.All the people that red thumbed comments would seem to think it’s alright to rape a 14 year old boy.Admin’s would be cool if you could sort out a system like Boards.ie,so you can at least identify,these sad,cowardly,sicks bastard!!!

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    • I just red thumbed your above comment – since not knowing seems to bother you so much. I especially find it hard to see where you draw the link between disagreeing with capital punishment – particularly the somewhat bloodthirsty brand that seems to be popular at the moment – and supporting rape.

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    • Ah I see what you did Graham,you glanced at handful of comments and commented on mine.So basically what you are saying is comments like Lisa Saputo’s comment for example “Poor kid, that’s horrific” deserved the 14 red thumbs her comment got ???

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    • Ah I see what you did Ru Ni Digs – you assumed that because I had responded to you, I must not have responded to anybody else, when in fact I have a couple of other replies posted in this section already.

      Suffice to say I don’t feel a particularly strong need to repeat myself – particularly with comments that would equate my abhorrance of violence, whether criminal or state sanctioned, and support for judicial due process with a sympathy for the perpetrator of the violent rape of a child.

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    • In that case Graham,you should contact the Prison Service and inform them of your confidence in the conviction,imprisoning and rehabilitation of pedophiles and rapists and as a result you have no problem with having one living on your street.I would imagine they would be very grateful for your assistance,as there has been a problem in the past with housing such offenders.Let me know how that goes ???

      I would also like to add that no such link between “disagreeing with capital punishment and supporting rape” as you put it,was ever made by me.You just assumed that,when in fact as the example in my previous post shows,that giving a red thumb to such a post as “Poor kid, that’s horrific”,is not a comment on capital punishment,either way.It’s actually a comment on the mentality of some people on this site. How are you not getting that ???

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  • Can someone explain to me why we haven’t brought in chemical castration here? It is reversable and diminishes sexual urges and the ability to get aroused. The important fact is that it is reversable, therefore once the ‘castration’ sentence is over it can stop being administered. They have done very succesful trials of this in the USA.

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  • Do you lot do Any work.?

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  • Actually they also have it in Britain now and are debating bringing it in up north.

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