Best post of the week. Bravo

Anyone who would vote for ablation is an idiot. Simple as.

On the nail as ever Peter, these folks are making me want to start throwing stuff, or maybe up.

John Hayes
“Anyone who would vote for ablation is an idiot. Simple as”

From Wiki;
“Ablation is removal of material from the surface of an object by vaporization, chipping, or other erosive processes. Examples of ablative materials are described below and include spacecraft material for ascent and atmospheric reentry, ice and snow in glaciology, biological tissues in medicine, and passive fire protection materials.”

It’s used as a treatment for endometriosis funnily enough, endometriosis can be a debilitatingly painful condition caused by the cells that form as womb lining (endometrium) gathering elsewhere in the abdomen, this builds up each month, as it would in the uterus, and causes immense pain. The actual endometrium sheds once per month (the period). Endometriosis has nowhere to shed *to* and when too much builds up, it needs to be ablated.

Funny you would oppose this treatment for women too.

Of course, it’s probably just a typo, but only an idiot would hit send without proof reading right?

Shanti is on fire tonight! Of course, you’re always on fire – great post. Gave me a nice chuckle! :)

I am not typing this comment. War is peace. Some are more equal than others. Black is the new white.

yes and if we had direct democracy we could do this, a number of signatures would need to be collected and then the people could call the referendum.

The essence has to be that a woman has final say over the custody of her own health and bodily integrity…not an unborn possible child. And not even a born child. Adults make the adult choices.

20 years in politics is a blink of an eye and 3 days is an eternity. Fear of alienating voters is the reason. As they say, whatever you do, do nothing.

Peter,labour alienated the voters when labour rolled over for fg. Like fg you have this country on the verge of riots.
As a party labour has lost credibility and any faith the electorate had in the party.
If you don’t believe me then just tear yourselves away from your smokeblowers and ego strokers and get your overpaid arses out onto the streets to see what the electorate think.

Lorna, I don’t think that you have gone off topic at all. There seems to be an illness and dysfunctional it’s at the heart of representative democracy, especially when a ruthless operation of the whip system ensures a highly homogenised and decision making process totally incompatible with public mood and opinion emerges.

With technology and communications, a more participative and democratically engaged form of democracy should be emerging and possible.

I am very interested in knowing more about Direct democracy Ireland. Good for you to get involved. You may well be ahead of the curve on this.

What is Direct Democracy’s position on abortion?

I’m no fan of Labour but to be fair to them they ARE in favour of abortion. Not just legislating for the X Case but for full abortion in Ireland. The way they’re going about it doesn’t give off that impression but there’s no doubt in my mind that behind the scenes they are pushing this issue tooth and nail against Fine Gael within the coalition.

Yea….bring back Bertie and the Greens!!! Seriously?

David, the problem is that people like me judge by actions, not words. I can see that you are sincere in what you say but Labour suffers a credibility deficit.

David – almost all Labor TD’s voted “no” last night. How much more denial do you need?

Sean – I didn’t say anything about Fianna Fail/Greens. But I would like an alternative government from the other parties.

Higgins you are y.f.g. you voted to legislate x a while ago. Get off your high horse.

they are stalling so they are eligible for pensions same as FG they dont give a toss .Am i wrong ?if not then do something now

David Higgins, if you are not a fan of labour, then why is your party power with them in the government? Please tell the truth and no more soon please. You deny saving a womans life, blame your own party for that, and now you say you don’t support labour either. Either you are a serious psychotic case, or you are trekking porkies… Please help us out understanding your obvious contradictions.

Live and let live? Tell that the unfortunate lady in Galway, tell it to the nurse in Cork who’s family settled a case this week. By the way they are both dead, Maybe you should take your own advise and let people live and make their own choice rather then interfering in something you know nothing about.

There is no real evidence that “There is more of a risk of suicide after an abortion than at any stage of a woman’s life” as you state. In fact, REAL studies conducted by actual psychologists (and not just priests/nuns/Youth Defence types) would indicate that post abortion syndrome is a myth, and those who make the decision for abortion while being in good mental health to begin with experience little or no detrimental affects to their mental health. The women who are suicidal/depressed after abortion were found to be those who were already suicidal/depressed before pregnancy was an issue.

Ironically, adoption which you highlight as something to be promoted instead of abortion actually causes more mental health issues for the mother (and child) over the long term. Can you imagine what it’s like for a woman who, because she has no other option, goes through an unwanted pregnancy, gives birth and then has to wonder all her life what has happened to that child?

You live and let live yourself and don’t be peddling myths.