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Gerry Adams: The Taoiseach’s salary undermines his agenda

In a wide-ranging interview with TheJournal.ie, the Sinn Féin president also revealed which government policies his party actually supports and explained why Croke Park II is a bad deal.

Gerry Adams speaking to TheJournal.ie
Gerry Adams speaking to TheJournal.ie
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SINN FÉIN PRESIDENT Gerry Adams has said that Taoiseach Enda Kenny should earn the same salary as a working TD and believes that the new Croke Park deal is only “tinkering with those at the top”.

In a wide-ranging interview with TheJournal.ie at Leinster House last week, Adams said that he expects his TDs to vote as one on any legislation for the X Case on abortion and also acknowledged that most people in the North do not want a united Ireland.

Adams said that the negotiated successor to the Croke Park deal on public sector pay and reform was not a good deal but said it was up to the trade unions to decide whether or not they want to accept the proposals.

The Louth TD said: “The fact is there was an opportunity for the government to take a different position and that was to bring in a wealth tax, to bring in an extra tax for those who are earning over €100,000.”

‘Tinkering at the top’

He said that the government was “tinkering with those at the top” in its decision to reduce the pay of those earning over €65,000 by between 5.5 and 10 per cent.

“If you take eight per cent off a nurse you’re taking a huge amount out of that nurse’s salary. If you take eight or ten per cent off something that the Taoiseach’s earning he can live with that without any problem whatsoever,” Adams said.

He said that Sinn Féin would introduce a wealth tax and a temporary third tax band in order to raise the type of savings that the government is seeking through the public sector pay deal and said that the Taoiseach should be on an ordinary TD’s salary:



On the issue of abortion Adams said that he resented the belief that legislating for the Supreme Court verdict in the  X Case – which provides for abortion where a woman’s life is at risk including risk of suicide – would be exploited.

“That has not been my experience of Irish women,” he said. “I just think that’s scaremongering, it’s hysterical and it’s just not respectful of women.

No women that I know, and I’m sure this goes for all women, ever wants to have an abortion or to terminate their pregnancy. No woman wants to do that.

He said that Sinn Féin had a party position that had been determined at its last Ard Fheis that it would not allow a free vote on legislation for the X Case.

Last year the party stripped its Meath West Peadar Toibín of a number of Oireachtas committee chairmanships after he abstained from a vote on private members’ legislation for abortion.

Adams said that any TD who votes against the party whip on the government’s forthcoming legislation will be dealt with:


Border poll

On the issue of a united Ireland and a border poll, which his party recently called for, Adams acknowledged that the “majority of the people in the North don’t want a united Ireland”.

“Unionists don’t want a united Ireland so we’re not running away from that issue. That’s a challenge for us to persuade [them],” he said.

He said that a border poll – which a recent opinion poll found would be rejected by voters in the North – was not something that would be “foisted” by the Sinn Féin hierarchy but insisted it was part of the Good Friday Agreement.

“Let’s continue the debate, let’s set a date, and let’s give the people their say on this big issue,” he said.

Adams added: “Of course the British government will try to avoid a border poll unless an Irish government lives up to its responsibilities.

“Constitutionally the government is obliged to work for a united Ireland and it’s not enough for the Taoiseach to say it’s inevitable. He has to work for it as well.”

Sinn Féin in opposition

Adams also said that his party was fundamentally opposed to austerity and the general policies of the government.

But he insisted that despite claims to the contrary there were some things the government is doing that Sinn Féin actually supports:



More from TheJournal.ie’s extensive interview with Gerry Adams:

‘I’ll certainly lead Sinn Féin into the next election’

There were TDs intoxicated on night of promissory note debate, Adams claims

On Twitter: I don’t mind if people think my tweeting is weird

Other Leader Interviews: Fianna Fáil’s Micheál Martin

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Comments (106 Comments)

  • They’re all taking way too much money in salary from the state not just enda.

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  • I am not a traditional Sinn Fein fan but the man speaks a lot of plain sense. Close the dail bars and breath testing the TDs is a solid idea. Same with the salary for the top job.

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    • You get a lot of these “I’m not a SF supported BUT they’re great/sensible/fair/don’t kill people anymore/etc…….”. Suspicious?

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    • Did you read the comment?
      Or did hate cloud your vision.

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    • Jim, am I to assume you are referring to my comment? I don’t hate SF, I hate communism, secret organisations, organisations that are associated with intimidation/murder/bank robbery/bombing as a political end etc.. SF hold Cuba up as a country to be admired. SF have a had links with the USSR and North Korea, not to mention being funded and supplied weapons by a dictatorial Libya. As a matter of curiosity, don’t SF members hate Unionists? They certainly used to?

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    • Ok william of orange.

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    • Actually William, you seem to be mixing up your Sinn Féin’s there.

      It was the Labour leadership, formerly known as Democratic Left, formerly New Agenda, formerly The Workers’ Party, formerly Official Sinn Féin, that had links with North Korea.

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    • Mark, of course Labour is full of old Trotskyites but what’s your comment on this …

      The main link between Sinn Fein and North Korea is Gerry MacLochlainn. The former Sinn Fein organiser in Wales was released from Maidstone Prison in November 1983 after serving two and a half years of a sentence for conspiracy to cause explosions; before becoming the main representative of Sinn Fein in Great Britain. More recently, he has been a Sinn Fein appointed councillor in Derry and Mitchell McLaughlin’s constituency manager. MacLochlainn came into contact with circles on Britain that were sympathetic to the North Korean regime and its official ideology known as Juche;… Sinn Fein developed friendly relations with those circles. MacLochlainn even wrote a booklet entitled “The Irish Republican and Juche Conception of National Self-Dignity are One” (London: Mosquito Press, 1985). The publication was about the similarities existing between the Irish Republican and Juche ideologies. The Juche ideology is a mixture of radical nationalism and socialism, and would be close to Maoism. … … as late as November 1999, MacLochlainn was a speaker along with Harpal Brar at a commemoration of the 1917 Great October Revolution organised by the Stalin Society in Leicester.

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    • God William but you’re a gas man! You give out about socialists but are quite happy to quote a member of the Irish Republican Socialist Party when it suits you. Here http://indiamond6.ulib.iupui.edu:81/pyongyang.html is the article in full least you should be taking it out of context. Normally when I do a cut and paste job I will put quotation marks around it and attribute it to the author otherwise it only makes it look like I came up with the words myself and that wouldn’t be fair to the author of the original piece in the first instance.

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  • Ridiculous, the way some people here attack SF on the subject of td salaries. I and many many others totally agree with SF on this and YOU won’t here this agenda brought up by FF/FG/LAB. That’s a fact. So thank you SF keep up the good work.

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  • Folks in the Republic may not like Gerry Adams for his questionable past or the political party that he is a member. However, he does speak sense if this article is true. Furthermore, with no disrespect to those who suffered the troubles, Gerry Adams really has a great deal of true grassroots selfless political experience than our lot running this country. The comparison of difference is astounding.

    Again, I don’t support Gerry Adams… But then again… I don’t support any of the greedy, self-serving, self-righteous, self-important lot running this country. I keep hoping that some bright soul will rise from obscurity to run this country. … Something like what happened in America’s case with Obama.

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    • I was loving what you said till you said Obama. Obama has done nothing for America .He isnt a great leader America has had alot better

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    • I agree with you. There has been greater American leaders. However, at the time of Obama’s rise. America had very few choices. America had Bush and his idiotic views of running the country. What didn’t need was a perpetuation of the status quo. Bush and his administration damaged so much.

      What America needed was a cleaner, a decent administrator and a beacon of hope. And this what Obama is… He may not be able to do anything overly outstanding like a Lincoln or a Grant. But he will try to correct the wrongs of the previous administration.

      Furthermore, if the past two taoshoics (sp?) had the same stamina, altruistic nature, intelligence, oratory skills and innate wisdom as Obama…. Ireland would be a better place.

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    • not to mention the republicans are blocking every change O’Bama proposes through sheer pigheadedness they are ruining America(USA) by blocking reform and allowing big business to move their operating sources to cheaper places like China and India good for them bad for Americans except the 5% big money boys who make more than they or their offspring can ever eat and spend ,yet half of America is in poverty and the rich call them spongers or insinuate they are so the middle class take up the call if you close a plant in America and open one up on foreign soil you may earn more for yourself or the shareholders but what about the workers laid off who cant feed their families and go on welfare paid by the taxpayer how does that help America doesn’t take a genius to figure that one out .As for Gerry when he comes clean and explains how he is gonna make things work instead of useless rhetoric and put the gun behind him (which was necessary at the time)then he will get my vote but using obvious populist rhetoric without a plan makes him sound like the other shower’s of *£&^’$(more time for Richard Boyd Barret )oh yeah seen Lincoln yet ? great man but his path was not easy and his reward for being honest and good sucked ,looking out for those who were being ignored whilst big business ah never mind!! open yours watch the movie

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    • Niall. . Geez.. Take a breath (lol)!

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  • The one thing that I have noticed in these articles and in fact almost any article about Gerry Adams. MMcG and SF is that people (or the usual suspects) will respond in the manner of Enda Kenny. That is they will bring up the IRA, SF’s policy on TD’s only taking the average Ind wage from their salaries, McConville and’or McCabe and printer ink. After that they run out of anything else to day!

    How about addressing the points of the article for once and come up with a fresh idea or too rather than the usual drivel and hackneyed heckling. If Adams came up with the cure for cancer the usual trolls would harp on about his past and wages and ink etc etc rather than acknowledge the cure!

    Adams is right about the Croke Park agreement and right about the state of some TD’s in the Dail and right about Kennys salary. I suppose that’s what has put the Shinners in up in the polls and has the other main parties especially Labor shitting themselves.

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    • Fianna Fáil/Fine Gael and RTÉ spent decades drilling that mentality into people. Many people have educated themselves properly on the history of the war in NI since, but just as many remain bitter and full of hate still.

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  • To be quiet honest I wouldn’t care if satan himself ran the country as long as he could even out the score, hold the people responsible for ruining the country responsible, stand up to Europe and drag the country out of the shit its in. How bad can he do? It’s only four years, what’s the worst that can happen. Surely it can’t get worse????

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  • They should all take a cut!! Living the high life!! Sick of them all anyway!!

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  • SF are one of the only parties I can honestly say gives me any hope for a change. Roll on elections…

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  • It isnt just the basic salary it is all the perks on top .

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  • That’s all good except the party whip bit. The party whip forcing td’s to vote against their conscience against all good sense is madness. Sure have debates but do what your told that’s no good. Overall I would vote SF over FG And FF. Lab are gone with any luck my local TD Joe Costello fixed up his wife one sister in law in senate one got judges job don’t know how he holds his head up

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  • Do people think that if there had never been any armed resistance in the north that things would have worked out better????

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  • I wonder how long it will take before people link this statement to the IRA. After all, Adams isn’t allowed to speak about anything except that, according to some…

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  • Why or why do SF policies make so much sense to the majority?

    Is it perhaps because the policies of the other political parties are redundant for the vast majority of the people of Ireland at this point in time? Political polls would appear to show this.

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    • Yeh, Communism works.

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    • William

      Where do I say I support or are looking to introduce Communism into Ireland?

      Nowhere.

      I simply asked the question why other political parties are unable to counter the policies of SF, and if this were because their policies are redundant to the people of Ireland?

      In fact I would argue that the rise in the SF following is a direct result of the redundant nature of the policies of other political parties in Ireland, and not as a result of Irish people wanting a communism style political future.

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    • Is taking the average industrial wages and given the rest to the party not Communism? In the free market people are paid different rates, so doctors who are more highly trained and have more responsibility get paid more than nurses; people running large corporations get paid more than the guy running the corner shop.

      The heavy support for left wing trade unionism is also in direct opposition to the free market. SF believes in heavily and unfairly taxing those earning the most. The top 5% by income already pay 20% of all taxes, but that’s not enough for SF. SF wants to introduce a wealth tax because they hate the wealthy like all socialists.

      SF is part of a group in the EU that includes several extreme Left and Communist Parties.

      The problem is that if socialists take over Ireland we will become very poor, permanently. We will also lose many of our basic civil rights. Socialists can only create their People’s Utopian Paradise by removing individual’s rights, just as they did in the USSR and still do in Communist China. The group and the Party becomes the primary unit and not the individual.

      The socialists in government have already nationalised the banks, what’s next if SF take over?

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    • William

      Again where did I say or even show support for SF in anything I wrote?

      NOWHERE.

      On a clarification to your “The socialists in government have already nationalised the banks”. This is not the case in Ireland. The last Government was a right leaning FF lead Government and it was they who took control of and nationalised the Irish banks. Please get your facts right.

      What I have simply pointed out it that I believe the raise of SF is because of the ineptitude of the right within Irish political life and nothing to do with the policies of SF. Again please get your facts right.

      It can be argued that the current FG lead Government swept to power not because of their policies, but because the electorate wanted FF out of power. This still shows that even in times of economic destruction of the country by a right wing Government the Irish citizens still desire a right Government and do not seek a Socialist Paradise. For if they had they would have elected SF & Labour into power in the first place!

      Again I will repeat myself, I said SF’s rise is more owing to the FG lead Governments policies and actions than anything SF are doing themselves.

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    • Carcu, OK I accept that you don’t support SF. Your original post is ambiguous. What does “Why or why”” mean?? I thought you were saying that SF policies make sense.

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    • William

      The first Why was in reference to the headline. The second was in reference to SF policies making sence to the majority.

      Sorry for the confusion.

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  • What’s with all the Gerry Adams pieces ??

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  • here here. gerry for taoiseach. ming for tanaiste.

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  • People may go on about the likes of SF and the ULA only drawing an average salary but putting the rest towards furthering their parties and causes they support and that is fine.

    One thing though, if FG or FF did they same they would quickly become unassailable in the polls. They will not though because most FG TD’s and pretty much all FF TD’s are just in it for the power, perks and salary.

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  • One point he doesn’t make is that most Catholics in NI also support British rule. A United Ireland is far from inevitable. In any poll 75% would vote for British rule.

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    • Should we decide general elections or referenda based on polling a few hundred people?

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    • Pharmyco is right, you just cannot make that call without a border poll. It is our right under the Good Friday Agreement to have a border poll to see what needs to be done to bring about a united Ireland. I can go to some areas of Northern Ireland and get a poll with 95% support for a united Ireland and others with a 95% opposition. We won’t know until a proper border poll is done.

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    • well we should have a referendum in the 32 counties on it shouldnt we.

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    • #Tag 04/03/13 #

      I agree I live in south Belfast and I’m originally from the west, everyone laughs every time we get stats about a border poll…when the F.U.C.K did someone ask me? Lol..P.S I’m in favour of a border poll and a united Ireland.

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    • who in there right mind wood want to come down here, look F/F an GREENS led us into this rescission now we all voted F/G and LAB. in to try sort it all out and what did we get more of the same .They are still creaming it in at the top. So no change right

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  • Didn’t Deputy Adams take thousands in housing allowances when he was elected to Westminister. Even though he never showed up, glass houses and stones come to mind.

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  • Gerry’s wealthy friends undermines his agenda…

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    • O’reilly, back that up?

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    • How do you figure that? Are people not allowed to associate with other people who have more money than them. Considering the wealthy friends that the politicians of other political parties have/had I’d be more interested in them. Wasn’t Enda palling around with Dinny O’Brien over in Wall St there a while back? Now if you want to go on about wealthy friends friends I suggest you start there.

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    • Not many SF grass roots have friends to pay out 30 k for medical bills…

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    • Where is the problem with one friend helping another out? If one of my friends needed medical treatment and I was in a position to do it then I would gladly help him out. BTW where did the figure of €30k come from as I’ve found it hard to find any info on the cost of and who provided the treatment to Gerry.

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    • “Where is the problem with one friend helping another out?”, I think that is what Bertie said about Paddy the plasterer

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    • The difference being Pierce is that “Paddy the plasterers” dig out was swept under the carpet and it took a tribunal for it to come to light. Adams’s dig out is out in the open and available to public scrutiny unlike the dealings of past FF and FG TD’s.

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    • Brian ranted himself right into that one Pierce. Absolutely no difference between a ‘friend’ covering medical bills and a ‘friend’ handing him a brown envelope. If my friend covered my medical bills I’d certainly owe him a few favours. And if I could rely on friends to cover my costs as they arose if be happy to hand over my salary to whatever party wanted it. Though what about his comrades that have to experience the HSE when they are ill. Seems a bit rich to claim comradeship with the working class while you yet off to a private clinic in NYC for treatments costing thousands.

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    • Ciaran what favors do you reckon Bill Flynn will get off Gerry or are you just indulging in idle trolling? How about commenting on Micheal Lowery, Bertie Ahern, Garret Fizgeralds bank write off, and the €30,000 write off by the banks of a prominent Labor TD’s overdraft.

      As for the private treatment, Adams has already stated that that type of treatment was not available in NI and so that is why he went to the States. He also was up front with the press which is more than any other TD from any other party has been. The ” difference between a ‘friend’ covering medical bills and a ‘friend’ handing him a brown envelope” is that the brown envelope is normally done out of sight of scrutiny whereas Adams’s treatment payment is there for all to see. If Bill Flynn were to get any favors from Adams that he wanted to be kept secret then he is certainly going the wrong way about it!!!!

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    • Amazing how liberal you lot are in the use of the word troll but how reserved you are when it comes to the words terrorist and murder. If you weren’t so blinkered you’d see that I addressed those issues with my reference to the brown envelopes. Unfortunately for you no amount of name calling will change the fact that the only difference between the payments is the form they took.

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    • Ciaran SF aren’t murders and terrorists, they are apologists for murderers and terrorists.

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    • Ciaran I think it is fair to say that everybody who sees the phrase “brown envelope” with regards to politicians will associate it with underhanded payments in return for favors. By saying that there is no difference to Flynns payment of Adam’s expenses and the under the table back room dealings and brown envelope culture of other politicians is to say that Adams in some way receiving monetary aid in return for political favors. In fact you said it explicitly ” If my friend covered my medical bills I’d certainly owe him a few favours.”

      The fact that this was all done out in the open doesn’t seem to stop you attaching a certain innuendo to the whole thing. The fact that Adams may also have a very large tax bill as a result of this transaction is also lost on many people.

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    • Who is using innuendo? I used plain English. I also asked about the HSE not the NHS as it is the HSE the people who elected him are left to use.

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    • O'Reilly 04/03/13 #

      Info came from Gerry himself in Marrian Finucan interview…

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  • Who would win in a fight, Paisley in his hay day or Adams?

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  • Due to many successful bank robberies, Sinn Fein only need an average wage.

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  • Oh look, another love-in article between the journal and Gerry Adams.

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  • Wow Gerry Adams. a man whom 3 days before he became a TD (voted in by dundalk provos and their buddies)
    didnt know the VAT rate in the south,
    please gerry keep your views to urself.

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  • sinn fein need to make up their mind in terms of austerity. they preach that austerity is awful, immoral and wrong in the 26 counties, but in the puppet parliament (stormont)they are more than happy to implement the cuts handed down by their masters in westminster.

    in terms of this border poll, under the gfa it states that only the british secretary of state can authorise such a poll. it is extremely unlikely that the british would let go of the north because of a poll result anyway. the british have a long and disgusting history that still remains today, of what it calls a democratic process.

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